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Torvik Team Cast says it isn't. Even 3 isn't vs. the top teams we could play. 4 is good enough to get us an 11 seed at large but obviously that would give us the autobid as tournament winner in reality.

Yeah but Woodson played at IU, oh wait...

We better not fire Woodson and have 3 coaches in 5 years. No way you can recover from that. These 3 schools are still trying to recover. Wait, all of those schools won an NCAA championship? Impossible! They were mean and didn't give a bad coach enough time. The # of coaches in # of years is stupid anyways. IU had 2 coaches in 2 years with Knight and Davis. IU had 2 coaches in 35 years with Knight and Davis. IU had 5 coaches in 10 years with Knight, Davis, Sampson, Dakich, and Crean.

Honest question: Does anyone know of a time when it had to be announced a coach was returning next season and that coach actually worked out and didn't eventually end up getting fired?

but they don't have to get over a hump, they bring their own every game.

As many have said or alluded to, if Woodson is retained next year could (or likely would) get real nasty. Sad that if Coach Woodson isn't aware of that all of the "IU guy" fence mending he did will be completely gone before he is.

They already are going to

A big takeaway for me this season and applying it to prospective candidates if a move is made is that one bad season or things trending the wrong way is much worse the older the coach is.

I don't know if accurate but ESPN article earlier included him in the sizable buyout preventing move category and says ($17.6 million left on his deal). The rest of the list says buyout instead of "left on his deal".

Do you (anyone) know/remember what happen during the 2020-21 and 2016-17 seasons for Pearl? Did they mail it in since they were ineligible in 2021? Looks like some forfeits/missing games in 2017?

I addressed it all in my 1st post. Combination of age (about to be 64), buyout ($17mil?), salary ($5.6 currently) for those same results discounting the often used he would do better at IU thought that has rarely if ever worked out. If he takes 3 years to turn things around he's 67 at the end of that season and we're right back here again. If the belief is that he'd turn it around immediately and we'd be starting off at his 4 season, obviously I'd be ecstatic with those results but that wasn't the premise of my post. The combination of those 3 things plus the time he took to turn things around at his current stop just seems like a recipe for disaster, but its not my money and not my decision. It would have to be better than Woodson. I'd rather pay a lesser buyout (10-12m) for a younger guy (49) and the same salary required for Nate Oats all day every day.

That ESPN article earlier said its 12m now, but drops to 10m on 3/15. Still large but not 27 large

Not that it matters but I'm out on Pearl. Buyout, salary, age for his Auburn results no thanks. I know the hope would be that he could be better at IU than at Auburn, but we've been burned by that line of thinking for years now. Would have been a great hire during plenty of the previous searches.

It would actually be great if Woodson announced he was retiring at the end of the year. I think most, if not all, of the boo's and anger would subside and we could give him a proper farewell and thanks for ending the tournament drought and for trying to get us over the hump. Restore some of the love so many IU fans had for him before this season went way too far south.

I think Oats is the only one I have above him since he's a bit more proven at this stage. I know it doesn't sound well coming off hiring "IU guy" Woodson, but if we're taking a mid-major "unproven" guy, I want Dusty May because of his love for IU on top of all his other accomplishments/credentials that can be compared to others (Schertz, TJ, etc.) Doesn't hurt that his buyout isn't killer either.

By the time Sam Hoiberg hit free throws to put Nebraska up by 12 points with 2:09 remaining, the student section — which typically stands for the entire game aside from timeouts — was seated. A young woman behind the media row subtly let out a disappointed, “Well, f*** them.” ***** The root causes of this loss were all too familiar. The Hoosiers shot 58 percent at the free-throw line, largely thanks to a 5-for-13 clip by Kel’el Ware. They shot 19 percent from 3-point range — somehow only their fifth-worst mark of the season — and allowed Nebraska to shoot 42 percent from beyond the arc on the other end. Costly individual mistakes loomed large, like Galloway’s career-high six turnovers.

If my employer told me I had to die, I'd refuse too...

I was thinking how it looks favorably for May to have a slightly worse winning % starting at a program with no advantages even when you're taking out his two flavor of the month years.

Thanks. Turned it on and saw... Dusty May First 4 seasons .541 Last 2 seasons .857 I know from a post earlier Mike Woodson First 3 seasons .617

What did I ever do to you? :p