Bittersince87

Phillies fan? Lol

I think I'm going to be lonely here but oh yeah let's get this season started.

Ugh everyone knows I want coach gone but this is just uncalled for. You can bring up his coaching acumen or his lack of achievements but the guy is a nice guy and doesn't deserve this.

U know why . It hurts their ratings.

Yeah that was scumie thing to do. Kids and family should be left out. Still Roy Williams gets booed in public and that's from UNC. It just sadly comes at a high profile school. Stupid people are everywhere.

It has to be a cap all division one teams can afford . Otherwise talent will be front loaded and say goodbye to major upsets.

It can get better. He put no effort at all in defense. None. Nil. Nada.

I felt we were better than anyone on paper except Louisville. I flew to that Syracuse game - I was a broken man . Lol

For five years 15-20 million I could live with that . Can't you?

I do. I completely agree with that decision. I was proud of our school . I hate no loathe how other schools don't care (UNC). What message does that send to your student body " don't care just cheat to get yours "?

Fair enough sir I understand your perspective and this rationality. I apologize if I sounded disrespectful. It's the practical person in me that says no one is going to turn down a 3-5 million dollar a year offer just because a coach just got five, six, or seven years to rebuild the program. It's business and nothing more ( except to us fans of course).

We were allowed to play in the postseason, we just weren't good enough to make it. Again that was our choice but that was part of the plan. U really think a coach is going to say " hmmm u hired coach Crean and payed him for eight years but the fans only think five--- I think I'm going to turn down this 3-5 dollar a year contract. So improper." Not really a smart move don't you think?

But we chose to do that , Syracuse chose not to and are playing for a final four. I agree with u about the first year though but other programs with bigger blows dealt with it and had continued success in there second year. The guy used 5 years to state his case. under his contract coach Crean had 8. Under your logic he had 7 years . I don't mind if you want to keep coach Crean just don't misinterpret information to sway a point of view. We were nowhere close to a death penalty.

legal terms are not the death penalty. Our penalties were given by our own university and that's it. I was actually proud that our university did that but the death penalty equates to forbidding us to play the season in its entirety plus no schlarships to athletes for at least an entire year. SMU got the death penalty we did not. We choose to slow play to stability to start off fresh ( which is fine with me) but other programs like Syracuse and probably Louisville chose a different path. Edit - plus we were not denied television revenue or blacked out from tv.

They weren't death penalty circumstances, we did not vacate or dismiss ourselves from any tournament chances. Oh just to also let you know UNC fired its coach Matt Doherty after just three seasons for Roy Williams. Don't put your personal ethics to this , its business and nothing more. Other coaches will not turn down a 3-5 million dollar an year job. Would you?

Five years I thought coach Crean had 8?

I also feel OG shot will improve as well. He's a gym rat and see a lot of Victor in him. I wish Troy did the same.

I lived in New York and saw a very strong St. John's program wither away to nothing. I'm seeing the same tendencies with the iu fan base. I think a majority of fans are settling and waiting for a great coach to magically appear ( it won't happen until we release the coach and give the candidate the hard offer (aka Michigan Football ). It is what it is, but when coach Crean said " it's Indiana" and this is what you expected well so be it. I've said my peace and I promise to all of you that I'll no longer broach the subject until next season. I just hope we don't become another St. John's .

I don't mind the debate but honestly no one has addressed the fact that we have not passed the sweet sixteen in 8 years. All the arguments are asking us skeptics to base our decision simply through this year alone. This happens each year. One year we were exhausted down the stretch. Another year we had no three point shooters and next year no big man. Last year we needed another year of development. This year we just crossed with a superior team. When's enough? None of the supporters have actually discussed what their limitations are. They blindly just defend, defend, defend.

Should Troy leave? I mean theoretically he needs a lot of development.

Yup it's a concern. From what I've been told is that one aspect he hasn't really practiced on, but if he wants to sniff a professional league he better.

Your ignorant types of posts in which you label people just to push your obtuse thoughts forward are really sad. This is at worst mind you Coach Creans second best team in his eight year tenure. This is not about just one game, it's about him not producing one team that's even remotely close to the team that beat us today. For three million dollars a season and the amount we spend for resources and recruiting we should be doing a lot better than this. I know he's a nice guy but he simply can't get over the hump and at times a fresh face is needed to change the image of our program. We as a fan base have gone complacent and that's why I know he'll be back next year without a second thought. But don't you dare devoid other people's opinions just because they don't align with yours.

But we were a five seed, and we earned that through a horrid big ten tournament.

I wish OG started the game. I honestly thought he would have Paige duty all night.

That's the thing. If we ever expect to go over the hump aren't we supposed to beat a team like UNC one day?