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Interesting post that will certainly wind the board up. While Dolson and QB having a good relationship isn’t earth shattering to me at all, the IU media flip is hard to not see as orchestrated. By who? I have no idea. Only have my own anecdotal evidence. I’ve been consuming IU media online since before AC, ITH existed and Peegs was monetized, and one thing that has always been consistent, is they stay on the ship until it is clearly going down. A shift like this, in year three is totally unprecedented from what I have read first hand. Especially with the VERY REAL possibility he’s back, and their access could be neutered. Thats the only part I can’t seem to grasp.

Bruce Pearl stalking the sideline like he does and barking at the refs would have AH electric. Hard not to picture him him in red. That is the kind of intensity that "bridges the gap" from modern IU to RMK, not nepotism. AH would be the most difficult place to play in the B1G again as it should be. Hard not to get too excited.

My only real memory of DD was being on spring break after the program got cratered and watching IU get spanked by Arkansas while at a bar in Florida. The next season was my super senior victory lap and not enjoyable as a student lol.

Another one of my concerns and I am not sure how closely folks follow the winds of change in CFB is that it is VERY possible Dolson was given carte blanche to swing for the fences on Allen's replacement (obviously at least whatever fence IUFB can swing for). Reason being the writing is on the wall with major conference football. The B1G/SEC will combine at some point and the top 60ish programs are going to form their own conference. IUFB cannot be left behind due to our historical futility and lack of pull. In short, IUFB has to be respectable to keep us at the big money table. CFB is driving college athletics now. I say that because it could impact the amount of financial power and leeway Dolson has over CBB. His ability to "swing for the fences" could have been predicated on it being now or never for the IU athletic department to maintain our Power 2 status in FB. There simply may not be the will within the administration to make another huge financial commitment to basketball. As much as it pains me to say that. Just my thoughts, sorry for the ramble.

I’ve seen it floated in a couple other corners of the interwebs, but the thought of what Bruce Pearl could do recruiting with our resources is what probably excites me most. Woody has proven our brand and money can get us in the door with Top-50 level players. Pearl would overhaul the roster and culture around IU overnight. Which makes potentially losing out on the chance that more gut-wrenching.

I agree, my assumption and would guess is most everyone else’s as well was when BS fell through Dolson panicked and we ended up with QBs friend. The tea leaves really look like Dolson was forced and now I am guessing he had a backup but got overruled.

I should have clarified, I meant it more in terms of him having the majority vote in his pocket. Runaway jury style, not specifically the power to veto a duly voted motion. Sorry for the lack of clarity.

I’ll add this, if QB really has veto power to control the BOT votes, and it gets reliably leaked nationally Dolson had a major move in the bag like a Pearl or an Oats type— ugly does not begin to describe what next year would look like for Woody and regrettably the players through no fault of their own if they don’t win 25+

We could change the thread title to IU Basketball Fan Group Therapy because if this wasn’t here I would be pulling my proverbial hair out with only my wife to listen to my complaints lol or maybe she’d be pulling her hair out from listening. Also, that change.org petition is going to reach its first goal before close of business…

The buyout information is really interesting. Would seem the public opinion campaign has started from within and I am guessing it is because Dolson knows he needs it to get around QB.

This is exactly what I keep coming back to. I am baffled by the thought QB would risk a midseason firing of his friend and veto a chance at someone like Pearl. If we whiffed on Pearl to keep Woodson it would be an all time blunder. I am not trying to be overly morose, but it would seem at that point the administration simply does not value/care about IUBB being an elite program-- no matter how much the fans and general alumni believe it should be. The narrative amongst our rivals would be confirmed. Not special, not a blue blood, and never going to reach heights that happened before I was born or on par with the UNC/Duke/Kansas's of the world.

Genuine question for the brain trust and it is going to seem like a silly question about someone who played here and is on the BOT but... How clued in to the program future outlook and CBB as a whole is QB? I ask that because it would seem hard for me to believe anyone who cared about CMW on a deeply personal level and understands how ugly next year is likely to be would be encouraging him or pulling the strings to ensure he is still the HC. If we get to 1 January 2025 and we are worse/equally bad than we are this year, his seat isn't going to be hot it is going to be nuclear and the media is going to be brutal. I just don't understand how QB could want that for his friend unless he is completely out of the loop when it comes to CBB.

I will preface this with Beard is no for me despite how talented he is. That said, he has a team that won 3 conference games last season and went 12-21 and has them 20-9 with a chance to finish .500 in conference. What he has done at Ole Miss in one season is, in a word, remarkable. If anything he is showing how quickly a good coach can turn a program around in this era. He will have a ton of interest.

It is sad but not surprising honestly. They can see the writing on the wall, I doubt seriously MR wants to play with 5-8 new teammates and lose a boatload of games in the process. For the majority of the season, no one looked like they were having any fun.

Right? Or maybe use the guy that was added to the program and had head coached a team to two FFs in the one and done era. Hind sight is 20/20, but Dolson knew this was a long shot and attempted to mitigate the danger. CMW just had the top cover to not have to use the resources.

I got to thinking about the late season wins and what, if any, result could have on the tenure. It felt like a while since we had won back to back games, and sure enough last time was in December when we beat Morehead State, North Alabama, and Kennesaw State. Short of winning the BTT (LOL) and a couple in the NCAAs I just do not see it mattering. Either Dolson is set on moving on, or we never were going to in the first place. I cannot come to any other conclusion given the overall problems going forward. College is so different from professional sports. A lame duck coach simply cannot be allowed to continue due to recruiting, and I think we have already seen the results of CMW getting negatively recruited against before you dare throwing out the "L" word to describe his recruiting philosophy or lack thereof. Maybe I am dumb for believing any of that, but it just seems like a few meaningless wins from a team playing loose is not changing the tide. Even on AC Jerod was almost breathless trying to build up the win and Coach and Ryan immediately brought him back down to earth about beating a bad Maryland team. So I continue to hope we do the right thing for the program going forward.

I have been on the Pearl train since Crean was fired, and he still gives me the most confidence in terms of instant credibility and success. That said, if CDM goes to OSU and wins and has success in March, we cannot outbid them. We would be putting a lot of eggs in the “dream job” basket. Their new AD is the guy from A&M who just gave Jimbo Fisher 90 MILLION dollars to not coach football. The way Ryan Day has been throwing money around, it is a different world now at OSU and they were already not scared to spend money. I want Dusty anywhere but a B1G school the likes of OSU.

As your campaign gets off the ground, allow me to remind you to give your constituents what they want. *Clears throat* FIRE MIKE WOODSON.

No one responded because it was a ridiculous and condescending statement. Painting people as “either having a conviction or not” and thus qualifying it with some outlandish statement like “run for BOT if you think you can do it better” doesn’t make you principled. It makes you pedantic. There’s no point in arguing with someone who will make statements like that, hence, no one replied. It’s a bad faith argument and will just go in circles. And again, all happening within an anonymous internet thread titled Fire Mike Woodson.

I think one thing that does concern me is today was the first time it has looked like Woody specifically adjusted the scheme. Almost like he was told to or else. He went a long stretch with only one center and MM at the 4. We played so much better and he subbed MR back in, offense stalled with two centers and he took him back out with like 3 to go and we iced it. Maybe it was just a fluke rotation, but he looked like he was deliberately not running KW and MR at the same time. With the lane unclogged it opened the offense up. Shouldn’t have taken 28 games to figure out.

Maybe in a vacuum, but that’s why I qualified my statement. Does it help? Sure I guess, but the fundamental and macro problems with the program aren’t changing because of some late season meaningless wins over mediocre teams. For what it’s worth, I think Sparty will run us out of the gym. Time will tell I guess.

Nice W, happy for the players. I don’t think this moves the needle much, Maryland is an absolute mess. Beat Sparty and win a couple in the BTT and the conversation probably changes. This doesn’t change the fact that next year is going to be a total rebuild. Woody wasn’t hired to do a whole rebuild and shouldn’t be allowed to try in year 4. I don’t think a few inspired games by the team changes that. Just my opinion

Sunday funday just got more interesting.

They’re going to see the hard way, similar to that other poster on here that people don’t like being talked down to from supposed moral superiority. Gate keeping the descriptive adjectives we should be “allowed” to use is offensive. And I generally like AC.

After their show Thursday this reeks of a course correct to maintain their program access. Even Jerod was pretty harsh saying something to the effect of keeping woody would show a program that doesn’t put winning first. And for those not familiar, Jerod is the king of sunshine pumpers.