WayneFleekHoosier

Our 2016 recruiting has been extremely underwhelming. You can't recruit like this and be a national contender. We have a LONG way to go to have the type of recruiting class we need for 2016. Too many other Universities knocking it out of the park with recruiting. We aren't amongst them. In order 1. Rawle 2. Maker 3. Bridges 4. Bruce Brown 5. DeRon Davis 6. Leaf 7. Kegler 8. CuJo I may be missing some....

Huntington prep averages CuJo 15.3/3/3.9 Miles Bridges 15.6/10.7 TB 17.3/11.6

can't concur or deny.

@MSU, @Wisc, @Iowa, @UM, @Illinois. 4 of those 5 then a home loss to anyone. Probably 2 home losses. So 12-6

Could be 5-2 then 6-5 too. Boy , that would be disappointing.

Probably 13-5

A realistic chance to start off 7-0. Then again, it could be 4-3

I love this schedule.

kudos. Love reading this post. I am not anti Crean as much as I am pro Indiana. Too many repeated errors in system, coaching, player personnel, and recruiting. I want him or ANYONE to succeed at IU. I want to be on top, regardless of who is coaching. The hard thing is we are 2 years removed from a preseason #1 ranking and could be preseason top 10 this year. The near success is tantalizing but the failure to live up to expectations is excruciating.

I can live with this and I do think he can be better for us than he was for Pitt (he better be). But his resume/live action does nothing to convince me he will be great. To me it's another weird impulse signing by Crean. As Newkirk's father said, few schools had reached out to him. There is a very good reason for that. Sadly. Now if UK, Duke, Arizona, Kansas jumped in on him that would be another great sign. Heck, even MSU, O$U, UL, UConn jumped in that would be good. There are a number of signs that this is another classic reach by Crean. He's been doing that more and more lately, if you've noticed.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I am not going on 1 thing to base my opinion. I watch a lot of college basketball. I've seen him play. He is an upgrade from Stan Robinson, he is not Yogi Ferrell. Those quotes about him regressing and looking lost aren't my opinions. Those are in the write up. He is a bad free throw shooter as far as PGs go. He has microsurgery on his knee. He is okay. He may even turn out decent but he is currently a fledgling backup point guard from Pittsburgh who crumpled under the pressure of more minutes. Blamed the system and left the program. Forgive me for not being enamored. I don't need 5 star players but I want players to be excited about and this is a big risk with some odds but low odds of being a homerun.

I recommend reading "a closer look" on inside the hall. Quotes like, "he looked lost out there", "he regressed" don't impress much. Would be a good player as our 11th, 12th, 13th, but as our starting PG I'm not pleased. And those that are impressed don't have high enough expectations for what we could be.

He was a back up PG at Pitt. Back up PG.

so happy to see people with their eyes open.

yeah but he averaged 5.9. He is a decent player. He is not April. He also is not Yogi.

Article goes on to say he plans on taking the torch from Yogi and carry right over. His dad says he plays just like Yogi. Loves fast paced play and playing through mistakes. Sounds like we "found" Yogi's replacement.

247 article: Newkirk decommited in August and "hadn't had many schools reach out to him". Scary thought.

this is my take to a degree. It would be ideal to get 2 BIG IMPACT guys still. Bridges/Leaf and Alkins/Leaf would have me jumping for joy. Or 3 of CuJo, BB, Stevens, Davis, etc.. Also of note. Even more likely now Gordon isn't going to be a Hoosier.

I think we still take another guard. If Blackmon bolts we take 2. Shouldn't affect yet.

well, do u want to be Pitt or IU? We have great O horrendous D They have great D and horrendous O. Both options stink but ours is more fun.

Also that storied 2017 indiana class. If troy leaves this year we have zero 2017 openings? I need to research this.

Trying to square away scholarship numbers here. We are full now on current class with Newkirk. Yogi----Gelon Max---- Ziesloft----- Troy?---- Blackmon?---- Bryant?---- Priller?---- So we have 2 more definite openings? 1 very likely opening in Troy. 1 semi likely opening in JB2. 1 maybe opening in TB? So 2 openings before oversigning?? Also Priller could be a open scholarship too.

If we get 2 of Bridges, Brown, Alkins, Leaf, CuJo, Davis I can live with these early signings. This one in particular. I understand the veteran PG thing. It makes sense to balance out roster too. Just not an exciting signing when those aforementioned players are on the board.

lets be honest. Who doesn't? Softest D in the nation. One thing about Newkirk, those boys from Pitt can Defend and NOT shoot.

Or Blackmon if he doesn't bolt