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Different sport and far different circumstance. I see you noted it as extreme but you're still trying to make the point... I don't think you can equate OC's/DC's in football and their standing to associate/assistant coaches in basketball. It's far different.

Calbert and Crean didn't get along. Kenny was money and also the Crean schedule or lack there of is tough on assistants and families. Kenny could attest to that from what I've heard but not sure that was the driving force or anything.

Or a head coaching position and a raise? This is the sorta stuff that makes this thread ridiculous and I'm not picking on you, Treesh. Thats the first post I read today. Crean isn't the guy but bring a logical discussion

Just bad.

This. If Glass were to miss on the next one he is done. Glass and Crean aren't buddies by any stretch but that is somehow a thing here.

I'm gonna edit the title. I don't think Dawg did it with that in mind but see your point for sure.

Wrong

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ouch.... Lookin like we may need to CHAT

Kids underrated

Watch it, Brass. I think IU brings it.

Haha can't wait

Demands it? I don't think so. IU athletics are doing fine from a financial standpoint. Fan support isn't really going to move the needle when you're still ranked and all. Barring a total collapse- which is not going to happen- and even then I don't think it makes a difference this year. Without a scandal or something, boosters are the only real way something gets done fast like many are asking for here. I sat on the 4th row for the Nebraska game (I get to Assembly Hall like once a year) and those guys aren't nearly as reactionary as this board. Right or wrong, they just aren't. I've been around some of them my whole life, as some on here know. They love IU, but they don't react like that with their money. I get the counter that you guys are having a reaction to a bigger picture. One big banker I was talking to right after the game said " Yup, afraid this is just the same ol' Crean. Average. He's bringing in good kids, just gotta wait it out. " or something to that effect. I maybe should have pushed him a little on what exactly he meant but had a bad experience with that once...not fun ;)

Thats fair. You're a mod, moderate those attacking you or him or whoever. Or tell me about it and i'll do it.

We've been instructed not to allow counter arguments in this thread.

Do you really feel ostracized? Persecuted? I mean, really, tell me. If you don't want to do it here PM me and we'll have that conversation. I'm pretty sure we leave everyone alone unless it starts bleeding into the recruiting threads and even then we let it go for the most part until I get a PM about it. I don't think we've handed out a warning point in months. Could be wrong about that but I don't think I am. The anti-crean stuff is everywhere and WE get it. It isn't like a lot of us don't understand he isn't the ultimate answer.

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Butler just lost at St. Johns. Fire Holtmann!!! And hire Holtmann!!

It took us a year to move from the chair reference to the kitchen table. Progress.

Definitely different than the Troy situation. I'd say about 70/30 go vs stay (if I had to put some numbers to it) but trending the other way. A lot more to shake out here.

Yeah, that's a little off. The original question was about whether Bryant will declare for the draft not his production if/when drafted. NBA scouts talk plenty so there can definitely be an informed opinion on draft position...

He's killed IU on the offensive end in both losses. I do think he is an above average defender, but he really hurts IU on offense.

That has you convinced about a kid who is 20-30 months from a decision? IU and the Watfords are plenty close and this is being handled the correct way, imo, on both ends from what I've been told. Trendon knows nearly everything about the Indiana program and Tom Crean. It'll come down to if he wants to carve his own path or follow on with his brothers legacy. I would expect to see Trendon focus on other programs for the next year + and that's exactly what I'd be telling him if I were advising.

What was that convincing brief interaction?