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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29633697/heart-condition-linked-covid-19-fuels-power-5-concern-season-viability So it’s the liability with the heart issues associated with Covid. Which we had a mom on Facebook speaking about this. I can see both sides of this, but if this is the concern I think they are more likely to catch it being out and about in a non structured schedule imo. But I get it. Every football team has over 100 in staff and players. Probably the toughest sport to work in this environment. We will see either way. It either puts me out of my misery of thinking we could finally win a bowl game 4 months early or I get football on Saturdays.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29634231/scott-frost-says-nebraska-prepared-look-all-options-including-playing-big-ten Man we need popcorn for all of the twists and turns in this one.

Starting to wonder if they had an informal polling to see where everyone stood on the Sunday call. With all of the contracts I think they would have to be somewhat careful on unilateral decisions. I don’t believe the networks would do this since football makes so much money, but I would have to think at some point there would be contract disputes with no season.

That’s pretty fair and I actually agree with you. I am positive it’s far more than can we protect our kids better this way or that way. I am sure it came down to 1. Money Associated with the virus versus what they will truly bring in. 2. PR 3. Liability if someone were to die 4. Overall safety. Probably in that order. I know players have been told there will be consequences to attending risky situations to this point. But much like mask wearing it is just a mandate. Since they can’t control more than what they can, let’s just hope we have basketball. On the flip side if they moved this to the spring I hope we can hang with a 40 man OSU roster.

You bring up a solid unintended point here. I wonder how much of this is related to the costs of testing and all of these safety procedures versus how much money they are losing. Some schools of course will be fine, but a lot I am sure are struggling with the additional costs associated with Covid. Wonder if that played a larger role in this than just Covid itself.

Sounds like the PAC-12 will cancel as well tomorrow. I know the hope is they will play in the spring. I just don’t see a ton of the top players playing at all this year if that’s the case. With all of the pre draft stuff that players go through I see a ton of players sitting out.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29629669/power-5-talking-no-fall-football

Really wish people would quit calling it the “China Virus”. Man our society.

Cubs and Cards game tonight has been postponed.

If you have a direct quote from Kary Mullis saying what you said he said please cite it. Since there are many it shouldn’t be a problem at all. What you said in your second and third paragraph I will just say cool. I hope it wasn’t for me. I was only “fact checking” a medical device/technology statement I am very knowledgeable in.

That’s fair. I will say with 100% certainty outside of radiography the medical diagnosis on viruses is pretty strong. I would actually be surprised as of all of the tests taken today If less than 95% were wrong. Not necessarily in March or April. Unfortunately it’s the best way to strip DNA to pull the data we need. Now if you apply in the human element of doing this test with the shear amount all at once, I am sure the margin of error is larger. But the test can’t do anything about the lack of manpower for this amount of tests and how they are transported. The test itself I am very confident in.

Knowing what you know I would think you would put the test at a bare minimum success at 95%. That’s probably low but not too far out of range of every other test out there. I lost track of the exact number but let’s say out of 4,000,000 positives there are 200,000 false positives. Viral testing is pretty tight. Now since overweight and diabetes is a popular subject in the various threads since someone can see someone is overweight. Does everyone trust a glucometer without these levels of questions? The American Diabetes Association is fighting constantly to bring every manufacturer within 15% margin for error. So a normal test for a person without diabetes ranges from 80-120. Some even tighten that up. You are coded as pre diabetic anything over 120. If you really run 110 you are considered a diabetic with a good possibility of not being accurate. For the rest of your life you are a diabetic. I have never seen anyone question that because they can see overweight people and just assume it’s true since more times than not the one has a direct relationship to the other. There is far more spent on healthcare for diabetes than Covid and it’s been around a lot longer. Why are we all so skeptical of this test versus others that effect day to day life a lot more? This is what I don’t get.

But he did not say that in a direct quote. Ever. No person selling their equipment or technology would ever do that. That quote you are pulling is in reference to AIDS and HIV which is very different than Covid. BTW, they still use the HIV/AIDS PCR test. That is still the go to due to the relatively low cost and low margin for error.

It depends on the vendor recommendations on 40 cycles. I know Applied Biosystems runs for 40 cycles at 15 seconds each. Depends on the unit. Hospitals have very little say in how they run their equipment. Just like your ceph unit in your office. You know how to run it. Less than a second, over 90 kvp or over over 10 mA depending on which machine you got. If you stayed local and bought from Panoramic Corporation their recommendation would have been different than if you bought from GE. Their test equipment is no different. The variations are dependent on the manufacturer. Not lab techs going rogue. And I completely agree with you on the antibody tests.

No I am just saying it’s false. Common sense on my end having had to buy medical products and no person in the medical world would say that to get people not to buy their product. There is no conspiracy. That was a mangled quote on HIV and AIDS directly which have no common correlation to a virus.

What fraudulent testing methods? There are currently 2 for Covid. Diagnostic and Antibody. Within the diagnostic there are 2. Molecular and Antigen. PCR is the most common of the Molecular. It is the most common test. No matter if you go in for cancer or diabetes, there are wide margins for error. That’s why in anything that you get a blood sample for there are radiographic images that can provide views needed to confirm a diagnosis. In Covid we don’t have that. In viruses this is very common because there is no way with a blood test to be 100% certain. There is a human element in every virus testing. They have to store a sample in a precise environment. They also have to handle these samples.

On your first fact. I don’t believe Kary Mullis states that. In fact I know that is a false thing on social media and has been debunked. It was fact checked a month ago and is actually attributed to John Lauritsen in a 1996 article about HIV and AIDS. You will never find someone in the medical field that says their product doesn’t work when many feel like it does. For all of the conspiracy theorists out there let me know of a time you heard someone making hundreds of billions that would make that claim that would mass disincentivize their own product. We really need to quit getting our data from social media. http://www.virusmyth.org/aids/hiv/jlprotease.htm

Good for Big Tom. He has worked his butt off to get in the position he is in. Out of all of the people we have put in the NBA that were Crean guys they have mostly done a good job of sticking. Not easy at all. Troy I think had the talent to, but sometimes you are a product of your environment.

I definitely don’t disagree with Wayne. But I agree with you too. There is always that one team that surprises. I could easily see Purdue 10-13. If they can find one or two people to hit a shot, and luck with Williams throughout the year I could see them in the 6-9 range. But if they lose Williams for anything we are talking Nebraskaball bad.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/penske-reverses-course-closes-indianapolis-161749610.html No fans at Indy 500.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDbZ9d1jGPj/?igshid=yagrmr78v98h Man that kid is going to end up on Sportcenter a few times.

After everyone is back, I think B1G gets 8 in. I think Illinois and Iowa will be in that top 10-12 at the end of season. I think we will steadily have 4 teams ranked the most of season. I would interchange IU and MSU but I trust Izzo more over a season. Indiana will be in that 3-9 range. I think where I would go after everything is announced is: 1. Illinois 2. Wisconsin 3. Iowa 4. MSU 5. Indiana 6. Michigan 7. Rutgers 8. Ohio State 9. Maryland 10. Purdue 11. PSU 12. Northwestern 13. Minnesota 14. Nebraska

I feel like I am with Demo on this one. I see them in that second tier that will once again go 9/10 deep. Anywhere from 3-9 is where I see MSU. I just think Illinois and Iowa right now are on their own tier. My pick would be Illinois right now to win conference.

As an Indiana kid I hope Henry takes that next step. I think the key for MSU is how much of a load Hauser can carry. Watts and Henry will make them a really good team. Hauser will determine how far they can go if he can carry a healthy portion of the load.