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I thought that's where he would go once I heard it was down to George Washington, Boston College and Maryland. Maryland is a going to be good this coming season.

Exactly. Banks' and Gunn's playing time will be performance based. You have to assume if coaches were confident Banks and Gunn were ready to start, they wouldn't be trying to land starters to play the wing position.

College coaches rely on a player's performance in games and in practice at the college level. Once the are on the team, the coaches don't care what they did in high school. They want to see what they can do at this level. If Banks was shooting well from the perimeter in games and in practice, Woodson would have put him in a position to shoot more from 3-point range. When Gunn kept shooting and missing, his minutes declined. Banks played more like a 4 than a 3 this past season.

Taking 3-point shots in high school is a lot different than in college, as CJ Gunn painfully learned. Gunn only connected on 8.3% of his 3-point shots this past season. Banks and Gunn may become fairly solid 3-point shooters during their careers. But based on their 1st year at IU, neither can be relied upon to be decent 3-point shooters in the near future. It took Galloway until his junior year before he started hitting a respectable percentage of 3-point shots and it will likely take Banks and Gunn that long as well.

HoosierFan is correct. Banks has not demonstrated he can be a starter at the 3. He only took three 3-point shots all season. IU needs a shooter who has ball handling skills to play that position.

Probably means no new visits are scheduled.

Brandon Newman and Kristian Lander in WKU's backcourt.

Geronimo has the athletic talent to be a power 5 basketball player but lacks the requisite basketball skills for a player his size (6'6"). It is somewhat of a mystery why he hasn't developed more, especially given the talk last summer about him possibly playing the 3. He played reasonably well when he started while Race Thompson was out with injury. Anyway, it is unlikely he would want to return--this is his second time in the transfer portal and he also considered going the portal route a year ago. It is probably unlikely IU wants him. It would seem Woodson was honest with him at the end of this past season and told him they were seeking transfers that would make him expendable.

It's Xavier Johnson's team now!

Yes, although Xavier has not been granted another year yet so it is premature to factor him in. Even assuming Xavier returns, there has been a huge loss in perimeter shooting for a team in which 3-point shooting was not a strength..

Hopefully, the coaching staff can land perimeter shooters. IU lost players either through graduation, the NBA, or the transport portal who made 149 3-point shots this past season, including three of the team's top four 3-point shooters. Only Galloway returns among IU's good 3-point shooters on the team (TG hit 30 of 65 3-pointers or 46.2%). TJ Gunn only hit 2 of 24 from 3-point range and Banks hit just 2 of 5. Anthony Leal, who was described as a good 3-point shooter when recruited, took no 3-point shots this past season. If observers thought IU's 3-point shooting was a weakness in 2022-23 wait until next season.

Galloway hit 46.2% of his shots from 3-point range (30 for 65) which was first on the team percentage-wise. He clearly has improved his outside shooting. But he was 4th on the team in 3-point attempts. Arguably he should be taking more shots from deep. But he is the ultimate team player and maybe he was looking more to get the ball inside to TJD or set up JHS than shoot. With Kopp, JHS and Tamar Bates gone--all of whom shot more from the perimeter than he did, maybe it is time for Galloway to step up and shoot more from behind the 3-point line.

I can't imagine Jordan Geronimo wants to return to IU. By the end of last season Geronimo was playing behind Banks. He has yet to become more than a very athletic player with limited basketball skills. Unless he somehow becomes a reliable outside shooter with better ball handling skills, he starts out next season lower than he began this past season.

Banks may be a better 3-point shooter than Jordan Geronimo (2 for 5 versus 5 for 19), but he isn't a better perimeter shooter than Kopp (44.4% or 63 of 142 from 3). Kopp has always been a primarily a 3-point shooter. Because he could reliably make 3-point shots, he forced opponents to guard him closely opening up the floor for TJD and JHS. Banks isn't that kind of player but it is the kind of player IU needs to play that position--the 3. On top of that, Banks like Geronimo, is not a particularly skilled ball handler. Obviously, he can improve his shooting and ball handling over the summer with lots of work. But not everyone is a Victor Oladipo.

Overall probably accurate except Banks better than Kopp. Obviously, they are different players but Banks is more like Jordan Geronimo than Miller Kopp. Banks brings rebounding and put backs that Kopp didn't provide. But he won't match Kopp's shooting ability. Maybe that adds up to a net plus but Banks at the 3 leaves IU without a reliable 3-point shooter that stretches the floor.

If you had bothered to read my entire comment on this point you would have seen that I wrote "it remains to be seen what Woodson will accomplish."

It is a mistake to blame that loss to a Final Four team on IU's players. Crean was a good recruiter at IU but a lousy game coach. Besides their best shooter--Hulls--was hurt.

Crean won more than one Big Ten title at IU. The point was Crean recruited complete teams (at least twice) leading to conference titles, something his successors have not done. I don't disagree that it was time for a coaching change when it happened.

I wouldn't put Crean in that category. Crean's 2011-2012 & 2012-13 team had Zeller at the 5, Watford at the 4, Oladipo at the 3, and Hulls and Farrell (just the 2012-2013 team) in the backcourt with Sheehey and others coming off the bench. The 2011-12 and 2012-13 teams were Crean's first team with players he could recruit trying to build a team rather than just filling a roster and trying to survive as was the case his first three seasons. Crean's 2015-2016 team had Thomas Bryant at the 5, Troy Williams and OG Annunoby in the front court and James Blackmon and Yogi Farrell in the backcourt, with Nick Zeisloft and Robert Johnson coming off the bench. These were well built teams with both shooters and skilled bigs though undercut at various times by injuries to key players like James Blackmon and OG Annunoby. Neither Archie Miller nor Mike Woodson have been able to recruit complete teams in the manner Crean did. Say what you will about Tom Crean, he won two Big Ten titles and was national coach of the year one year. Miller never came close to Crean's achievements and it remains to be seen what Woodson can accomplish.

Collins is a 6'9" power forward so Indiana is definitely out. Frederick started out at Iowa where he shot 46% from 3-point range as a freshman but has been hobbled by injuries at Kentucky.

It doesn't appear IU can land anyone better for the 3 position.

No reason for despair. IU has three talented players at the 5 and 4 positions and two talented players at the 1. IU has a returning starter at the 2 who can also play the 3. So IU needs a starter and depth at the 2 or 3 (shooters). But the approach to recruiting needs re-evaluation.

Although two of the top five players in the country this past season were from the big ten.

Really? Indiana obviously needs wings who can shoot. Any player between 6'3" and 6'7" who can shoot is virtually guaranteed a starting job with IU.

Perhaps. But that doesn't explain why Battle chose Ohio State. It seems what Woodson and the staff were selling Ledlum and Battle just didn't work. Maybe with Reneau, Ware and Sparks, Ledlum saw the front court too crowded already and he knows in his heart of hearts that he's not really a perimeter player. But whatever they are projecting for the 3 isn't convincing to players like Ledlum and Battle. IU may have to reconstruct their approach for that position.