Nonymouse

Only on this message board could the best source in all of basketball say “Brad Stevens was offered 7 years 70 million and did not entertain the offer” and people still say “yep, Chris was right, he almost came to IU.” Chris and whoever else probably heard - accurately - that IU was going to make an absurd offer. That never meant he was interested (and he clearly never was - if you have ANY desire for the job, you’ll clearly take it if you can get a 100% pay raise for at least 7 years).

He was a top 100 recruit and he’s been a below average center five years into college basketball. He’s a bust. He’s one of the worst high major post defenders I’ve ever seen. And not for lack of effort. He’s just lost. My guess is Woodson leveled with him and let him know the PT wouldn’t be there for him next year. So he’s leaving for the chance to play more. Same reason he left Butler. It was clear Bryce Golden was just better.

Possible he goes there but he was a Holt recruit - not Stevens - and Shrews hasn’t been at BU since Brunk was in middle school.

He’s been through a lot and he’s a great kid. He’s also just not good at college basketball. He was a bust. All can be true.

Never said “look” - I said “seems.” I’ve seen people come out of a wisdom tooth extraction with more energy. And the contrast between him and others thought to maybe be in the mix - Musselman, for example - is striking in that regard. Again, maybe it works. I don’t know. But that’s the concern for me right now.

Something I couldn’t get past watching the games last night after the presser yesterday: Kelvin is 65 and seems 55. Woodson is 63 and seems 70. I’m happy for Woodson and I hope it works - I haven’t really figured out how I feel about it and I still don’t fully understand it - but the age thing is tripping me up.

I think they’re absolutely waiting to talk to him. No idea if they can pry him from Ark. But they have to say hello.

You’re not wrong. It’s an insane amount of money, but I think Oats is the real deal and I would totally understand if they were going all in on an Oats push. Doesn’t mean he’s likely to say yes - Bama is a good job if you can get it rolling - but there’s no shame in trying.

I don’t have any good insight on what they think of him - didn’t mean to imply that. But if you have the means to even think about Holtmann (who has a $12M buyout and 3.2M salary), I don’t think enough people are going to say no that you have to resort to a guy who is such a big question mark and has no ties to the program. Whether that’s Enfield or Mussel or Belein or Woodson or even someone more surprising like Cronin or Altman or Calbert - I’m not sure right now. But I just really can’t imagine they’d put such a risk like Moser over those guys or that all of those guys say no.

I’d be completely, utterly shocked if it’s Moser.

Things are quiet. I’m confident Brad and Thad are out. Beyond that, I’m really not sure where things stand now. Going to try to squeeze for some info today, but not hopeful I’ll get anything new. What does everyone think of Andy Enfield?

I know. But I can’t out myself.

It would take you two minutes on google to find him connected to the jobs I just mentioned. As I said in the post - this was public. I simply don’t know if there were others. I had no connection prior to 2013, when he was fielding interest while at Butler.

Brad repeatedly refused to talk about jobs when he was a rumored candidate while at Butler. While there, he had talked to Tennessee, Illinois, UCLA, and the Suns (and probably others). His MO was always always always “I don’t talk about other jobs.” For him to deny it publicly in this way is as strong of a denial as he’s ever given about anything. Heck, he even poked fun at the notion this week when he said “remember last week when I was going to Indiana?” I know none of you care about my source on this front because I’m new and it isn’t what you want to hear, so I’m not going to keep going there. But the above info is all public and merely connecting logical dots.

“I only want to hear the views of people who agree with me.”

Where was the part where Saban said he loved living in Miami? Had Saban lived there 8 years? Had saban been to multiple AFC title games? Had Saban told everyone he’d never go back to college basketball? This comparison is silly.

Well you certainly don’t go into a monologue about how much you love being a Bostonian. If they were chatting, it’d be super super easy to go the Beard route and say I’m happy and don’t talk about other jobs.

Given that IU gave Holtmann a look (12M buyout and 3.2 salary), buyout/raise for Mussel (who makes 2.5 and has a 5M buyout) should be a non issue. I feel pretty strongly now that the wait is because they want to talk to Musselman. If he isn’t the coach, it probably won’t be because of money or that IU didn’t try.

Except Brad.

Regarding Holt, I don’t see any shame for IU fans if IU threw an offer at a great coach who’s got a great job and he said no. I don’t doubt what Doyel is saying. I also don’t know why there’s a negative reaction to it about it from anyone. Can’t get a guy to leave a top 10 job? So what? Holtmann isn’t leaving that job for anywhere (except maybe UK - unfortunately that’s his dream job). As for Rab? He’s got a lot of incentive to spin for IU, and if you paid close attention to what he tweeted, he wasn’t even contradicting Doyel, but he sure wanted it to seem that way.

Not a single thing Chris predicted last week has come to fruition (and I have people on the - uh - non-IU side of this telling me how absurd it all was). I posted here about the mutual Thad interest before it was public in media or had any traction whatsoever on here. Despite this, you and everyone else want *me* to prove the veracity of my sources but you’re willing to take his info at face value because it aligns with what you *wish* to be true.

Obviously this is true, but be careful bringing rationality to the forum.

I was literally just responding to a post where you mentioned me.

Look man, you passed along a lot of detailed stories as if they were gospel. They simply weren’t. You’re even implicitly admitting that here by saying you were out on a limb. I have zero problem if you want to believe in it just because it’s fun. Have at it. But when you mix in a bunch of falsehoods and posture it as legit info to get other people to believe, that bothers me, and that’s why I’ve been fired up about this.

True. Ok. I tried.