They are not at the same level as IU with regards to recruiting and tradition, but have similar strength in facilities and they get their fair share of 4 star guys. The biggest problem that McDermott had there is that he would get good recruits, who would then transfer out after a year or 2. It was a constant revolving door. There was a lot of complaint about his system being too structured and not allowing any freedom. Perhaps it was just that specific situation, but it certainly impacts my thoughts.