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I think it’s a full house cleaning. I read here, I think, that one or both have been offered roles with the Athletic Department.

Honor is a virtue, even among thieves.

These two things are what make the rumor somewhat interesting. I think Jersey is right but I think Hurley could wait a hundred years and not find a better fit than coaching Jokic. Not just that he’s the best player in his prime but the way that he plays and how perfectly it could mesh with a ton of stuff Hurley likes to do on offense. If you’re Hurley and you have any NBA itch that ever needs scratching, he’s going to be hard pressed to find a better situation. I think that fact at least bumps the possibility up from 1% to the 10% range.

Anyone is still going to take and pay big for the Flaggs, Zellers, ADs, Gordons, etc… But at this point they might as well make the 5* rankings about 3 kids every year. The Mbakos and Tuckers of the world will eventually not get paid like proven 22yr olds who can help immediately.

Why take an unproven 1-and-done 18 yr old when you can get a proven 22 yr old 1-and-done instead?

Is that public information? I missed that if so.

Not surprised by Michigans approach. I think everyone is heading that direction eventually. Also not surprised on Donaldson. I stated several times I didn’t love him as their PG and apparently Dusty felt the same.

I think the best coaches have a system that is a strong preference and can coach multiple ways. So if CDD can do that, I’ll be very happy. I think finally pulling some comparative stats the one thing I notice is that they tend to vary. That could be a good sign as he’s mostly won, which has been the constant. His first year in the tourney at Drake they were pretty slow (271st) shot very few 3s but made them and had a much better offense than defense. Last year at WVU they were really slow (331st) shot a lot of 3s, didn’t make a ton, but were excellent on defense vs a poor offense. Yet they won both seasons. His last year at Drake they were above avg in tempo (148) shot quite a few 3’s, made a lot, and had a balanced team as far as off and def efficiency goes. No real pattern to me except that he’s won with varying statistical profiles. I think I view that as a positive and it wouldn’t surprise me if he let a talented offensive team off the leash to run even more.

I know. I was referencing that. One of their bigs significantly contributed to their 3 point total last year but the other one shot no 3’s. They shot a high volume of 3’s and their guards took most of them with Small and Powell accounting for over half. Small shot the most at over 7 attempts a game.

WVUs pace last year was ranked 331. His last four years at Drake were ranked in pace at: 148, 220, 228, and 101. Average to maybe slightly below. Woodys teams were faster than that most years. He may play like you describe, but it would establish a departure from his past teams. (All rankings are from Kenpom)

WVU shot a ton of 3’s last year but didn’t shoot them very well. I’m sure the latter was affected by Tucker’s injury. His teams at Drake were more of a mixed bag in that regard. A couple teams looked closer to Woodys profile in that they had a high percentage but low attempt rate. Re guys like Comer, people forget we need a bench and it will have a handful of guys who get sporadic minutes at best. We’ll sign some guys who barely see the floor next year. For example, Hatton had some supporters (and maybe a few detractors) but was largely inconsequential . He was a piece to fill out the bench which he did a nice job of. I can’t be bothered to worry about some of these guys until I see the final roster. As far as Enright goes I look at one of his former players he brought to WVU and said similar things about (“culture and familiarity”) in Yesufu. He was a backup because they also signed Small. I won’t worry about a enright/comer back court until we use all our scholarships and don’t have another lead guard signed.

Which is why they were an 8 or 9 seed and about 30th in Kenpom. Nice job by Kelsey rebuilding a brutal situation, but when comparing CDD I think Kelsey is closer to the floor of what you would expect. I think you look to guys like May and Pope for the higher end of the range of what to expect. Either way, if he falls in that range year 1, 99% of the fan base will be ecstatic. And you really don’t have to hit a grand slam in portal to just field a tourney team with IUs budget. Personally, if he wants aim a little lower and get guys with more than 1 yr of eligibility so he can hit the ground running in year 2, I would fully understand that. It will be the first year of building a team without his son in a long time and may look different than his past teams.

Or the new Duke Blue Devils. Doubt our fans would complain if we rolled either team out next year although I would prefer to be Duke in that scenario.

I’m pretty sure when Bailey committed you said CDD could take a bunch of talented offensive guys and teach them to defend. Now he’s gonna take a bunch of bad offensive players and have them on the floor beating up peoples mommas? lol…I’m pretty sure nobody knows what CDD wants until we see it next year on the floor. He may not even know. If he’s adaptable he might just fill out the roster with as much talent as he can and coach them to their strengths. Sounds like at a minimum we need scoring punch on the perimeter and athleticism in the post. If we get to the end of the month and haven’t added that, everyone can panic.

That is the basic point that everyone agrees on but a select few posters. Not everyone wants a promotion or new title or the spotlight. But IU and other schools have proven that the big names with money have the ability to pull guys out of other P5 jobs. As far as this thread goes, I really don’t care who CDD brings in, mostly because I know little about these guys. This is one area where the coach should get whoever he wants to spend long hours with and not worry about optics or fans. Go hire a bunch of D3 or HS coaches if he thinks they’ll help him win.

Kind of like some things are deductible on my taxes and others are not. The friendly IRS agent was totally chill when I brought up this line of reasoning and definitely let me deduct the twenty cases of miller lite and 80” tv i bought for the super bowl.

He would be in the “good riddance, no thoughts given “ category for me if not for the fact that on every IU message board there is a subset of folks who believe that if only IU were dumb enough to try and lower themselves to join Sampson in his dip-s##t-ness we would somehow have ascended back to the top of the college basketball world. Those people annoy me. And I have little good to say about IU’s administration over the last 25 years. If you want to be critical of IU it should be for ever hiring him while on probation at the expense of other qualified candidates. And while Sampson is a good coach, he has serious flaws. I enjoy pointing those out to the IU fans who have convinced themselves that they would’ve enjoyed watching Sampson’s version of the Orlando-1 offense the last 20 years if only IU would’ve covered up some phone calls and Kelvin could’ve sprung Bud Mackey from a Kentucky jail.

Same reason CDD left WVU who should’ve made the tourney and could’ve been in the S16.

I’m not saying we should expect it. But there’s nothing preventing it. It’s not like the old days where you had to hope the old coach left so guys you could coach up, maybe get a juco transfer, and then start recruiting HS juniors so you could break out in year 3 or 4. If CDD does a good job and can coach with our resources we’ll have a good team next year. If he gets a little lucky too, we could have a FF caliber team.

Trying to draw lines between Clemson, WVU, and TT with regards to IU pulling coaches, assistants at that, is just self loathing. Anyone that can be pulled out of WVU or Clemson can be pulled out of TT. If it doesn’t happen it isn’t on IU, the AD or for fans.

That sounds like something dumb enough to be said by Kelvin Sampson. IU trusted Sampson to do something very simple : abide by the very plainly stated terms of his contract which included not violating the probation he was on. But he was such a small-time nervous loser he couldn’t even be trusted to do that. Kind of like how his players can’t trust him to draw up a coherent offensive play at the end of a big game. I wouldn’t trust Kelvin Sampson’s opinion in matters of trust. I do trust CDD to do something very simple and bring in assistants who can do the same.

Not when you look at the sideline and seeing Kelvin Sampson! Such a shame…

What’s up with UNC? Seems like a lot of their kids are hitting the portal.

Responded to for which you have nothing.

Yea, earlier he would’ve pump faked and drew the foul or passed to the open guy. He was beat. Only 18 so its understandable