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I’m not a Carmelo guy but like you said he won a college title. He was team USA leading scorer. Basically he succeeded with god coaching and was just a stats guy with not so good. He had his most team success with the Knicks under Woodson. Also the kids love Me7o.

That’s where I’m at. Stevens was the grand slam. A healthy matta at hc was the home run. Everything else carries significant risk. I’d rather go unconventional and look for upside. There’s plenty here. Could fail miserably, but what the hay... that’s SOP for IU basketball for two decades anyways.

I struggle to see how anybody could look at the resumes of Kieth Smart and Mike Woodson and come to the conclusion that they would rather have Smart. Iworry about the translation from pros to college for the NBA guys, but Woodson’s reputation as one of the more respected assistants in the league isn’t in question.

Agree. I’m not blown over by the pick, but there is upside to sell. Seems Dolson wanted Stevens. struck out. Went for matta but health was an issue and scrambled from there

Winner is crowned new Hoosier message board coaching darling and must get!!! I just want to preemptively say whomever loses that game I thought was a little overrated the whole time, and I always believed in the winner.

Interesting. Not real familiar. Will keep an eye on him. I’m in the same philosophical spot, though. If you take the top couple names off the board, everyone else has giant question marks anyways. I’d rather roll the dice on young talent. It takes an AD that can spot that talent, though.

Good coaches don’t coach like that. Either you can coach both or you can’t. Whether you’re offense more than defense or vice versa will be dictated by personnel.

Tourney is small sample size. And I like Underwood and was disappointed in their performance. But Underwood literally made no adjustments in that game and Loyola had their number. That was nice scouting by Moser. The problem for a guy like Moser is that once you get a profile people will start adjusting and taking things away that you do well. Today he had no answer for that. He’d see that every night, from better coaches than Tinkle, as a B1G member. As to the other, I’d be curious as to who you like. Personally, I think a good IU program doesn’t need a Calipari-level recruiter at the helm. Most coaches have recruited well at IU. I’d roll the dice with a good “classic” coach who knows xs and os, can prepare a team, and is good in game. Unfortunately, the college game is sparse with that type of coaching talent.

Historically, you have to be about top 30 in both to win a title. The game is played at both ends of the floor. You can’t really be one or the other.

If true, that’d be a red flag for me. People claiming he’s had some late career renaissance could be correct. Or the last few years could be a statistical outlier due to a couple of uncharacteristically good recruiting years.

All his fancy named series didn’t amount to much when he couldn’t address the 2-3 zone early. In their first game they relied on getting it to the big boy to collapse the defense and then cut and pass from there. When OSU took that away they had very little. They missed shots mostly because they were well contested. He was out coached today. And that’ll happen more times than not in a league like the big ten. Happened to Archie. Happened to Crean. Moser might be a fine coach. He’s no where near good enough to succeed at a place like IU. His resume is proof enough.

Some of us were never “in” on him. He’s recruited the most athletic team in the tourney. Don’t think much of him as an xs and os coach, though.

I’m not comparing Sampson and Knight because i do not believe they’re similar. Knight would discipline the hell out of shithead and then kick them off if he had to. But he absolutely had guys who partied and did drugs. But that’s not my standard of conduct, because the “normal college stuff” just goes undetected 99% of the time unless it becomes a real problem.

You’ve hit the big issue with his time at IU. I didn’t follow him at Oklahoma and do not now. So the question is: is that how he normally operates or was he cutting corners to try and get IU “back” immediately. A couple of those guys were juco transfers. It seems funny to think about now, but there was a real sense of urgency back then. The last few years of Knight weren’t great and Davis seemed like an unmitigated disaster at the end. It’d been about a decade since Indiana was a real tourney threat and we expect Sampson to return us to glory...like yesterday! Funny (as in sad) to think back to those days now.

When he was hired, I want real big on him because his offense is unimaginative. But he can recruit (heh), his teams play defense and they play real hard. At this point, we’re likely to hire a worse coach anyways. Might as well give him his old parking spot back and an unlimited cell phone plan with a 812 area code.

Where’s the Kelvin Sampson thread?

Is this supposed to be some kind of excuse for IU? Very unlikely UVA is doing anything that IU isn’t.

I absolutely love how reactionary message boards are.

More I think about it, Dane Fife is the likely play.

More or less at similar junctures in their career. Both are/were not going anywhere with their current team thanks to front office failures. So the next move, and there will be a next move, is gonna come and either be another pro spot or college. Saban was convinced to come back to college even though he never thought he would and his goal was to win the SB. Hell, Saban accomplished a lot more than Stevens in his first stint in the college game, had nothing to prove , and still came back. I’m not one that thinks Stevens is coming, but the parallel with Saban is there beyond the denials. Who knows what Stevens wants and if it’s even the same as he wanted a year ago, 8 years ago or a month ago. He hasn’t won a championship at any level. Doesn’t look like he will with the Celtics. And while he’s capable enough at a coach, in the NBA you realistically have to have a top 2 or 3 roster to do so and the coach has little control over that. I wouldn’t rule out a return to college for him eventually even if he doesn’t want to today.

I can almost guarantee you that the AD isn’t vetting coaching through disgruntled transferred players. I have no idea if it’s Musselman, but Justin Smith won’t have a thing to do with the search.

Doesn’t seem to hurt Gonzaga or Duke. Don’t think recruiting is a con at Indiana unless you want to blatantly cheat. The only thing holding recruiting back at IU is the one doing the recruiting.

When the Thad Matta stuff leaked, IU sure did a good job of reaching out to reporters to try and control the story. Guess you just can’t refute all the rumors.

Yes. If I had to choose, I’d take UCLA over following coach K. But it never comes down to that. Those jobs are rarely open, especially at the same time. So yes, when one comes up a type A top tier coach will jump. But objectively, following K will be a killer... no matter how good the coach.

Now do the number of titles this century. B1G is a deep conf, but not a top heavy one.