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Depends on how much he values history, recruiting upside, etc.... If UT offered Tom Allen $10 mil per to coach football don’t you think he’d at least think about it?

You say that now. But when Matta, musselman and fife publicly turn us down you’ll be building the moser shrine in front of assembly hall.

Great leader of men. Gotta think if his xs and os were better they’d never have been stuck in Egypt in the first place!

No... we’re talking about if he’s a respected basketball coach by some of the best coaches in the world. He is. Nobody is seriously considering a 63yr old with no college experience for the IU job. You can separate the two things. Just like some don’t want him here, most of the candidates IU has left couldn’t get an interview for most of the jobs Woodson has had.

I agree with that. His sets look good. Very beilien-ish. Big, big step up to a job like iu tho. That’s why ADs get the big bucks and front row seats. Just going off resume, I’d choose musselman over Moses if forced to. Going off the eye test, I’d probably go Moses. I like their offensive movement.

Musselman was run out of the NBA. Not a deal killer but something to look into. And he has one 20 win season in a P5 conf. His record at Nevada is nice, but its MM success. Alford was .750 at New Mexico. Shaka .740 at VCU. So on and so forth. Not a bad candidate, but it’s essentially betting on a MM darling again.

Do you know how ridiculous this sounds? Take a second and go look at the coaches who have hired him—paid him good money for his coaching services—in the NBA. Multiple championship coaches and several known as top Xs and Os guys have thought Wodson was a good addition to their staff. Unless you’re anonymously Greg Popovich secretly posting here, Ima have a hard time taking your assessment here seriously. (And even though I’m defending an iu guy on an iu board, I still feel compelled to say, he’s not my ideal candidate either.)

Recruiting is the obvious question mark. Hard to believe he wouldn’t recruit the heck out of the Indy area. But any coach who can’t recruit is dead in the water in college.

If Alabama took that approach they never would’ve gotten Saban. He waffled a lot. Reportedly, the AL AD flew down there and held Saban and his agents hand as they called Miami ownership and then immediately flew Saban back to Tuscalussa before he could change his mind.

He took over two awful franchises and had higher winning percentages than the guy before and after. Look at the coaches who hired him as an assistant. Some of the best coaches in the NBA continually hire him as part of their staff. His resume craps on guys like Smart and Mussleman. In the NBA you don’t get to choose your players. Stevens will likely be under .500 this year and it’s due to roster. Woodson has taken over crappy rosters and coached them up as well as anyone. It is why hes respected around the league. At 63 and not having coached in college, I don’t particularly want him either. But people crapping on his resume or coaching chops don’t know what they are talking about. It’s fine if you don’t want him as coach, but what’s with hating on an alum who is well respected in NBA coaching circles?

Like Archie and Alford he’s a good mid major coach. Not good enough for prime time. His pressing system was never going to work there, but credit him for abandoning it. That offense is a mess without turnover created transition tho (the case for most pressing coaches).

He’s been offered big time jobs up and down the west coast including UCLA. I don’t think he’s ever really entertained them. He just loves Gonzaga. They are lucky.

Stevens goes before Ainge. Easily. But he can get another coaching job easy, too. Rest of your theory sounds plausible.

No. Dumb idea. Not even the same sport. Go look at UNC’s old soccer coach—who successfully coached both genders—had to say on the subject. No overlap between the two jobs. Besides if you want an nba person with no college experience guys like Woodson, Whitman and smart have much better resumes.

Back issues are no joke. Steve Kerr had something similar but was able to fix it.

If he’s healthy and willing to recruit, he’s the best choice. I’m not crazy about his offense but it’s serviceable. He (previously) can recruit and coach ‘em up. He’s actually won in the B1G and recruited at that level which Stevens hasn’t (not saying he couldn’t). He’s also only 53. He could have a 10-15yr run at IU that is championship level.

Crazy to blow up a deal over that. But I can’t say I believe that. Don’t think Dolson would let that be the stickler. Who would ultimately care anyhow? Say he comes here for six years and wins a title restoring IU to greatness. The Lakers then want to hire him. It’d be awful to lose him to the pros but it’s a net positive for IU, either way. Seems like internet nonsense.

No. That’s a weird comment to me regardless of the situation. What guy who grows up in Indianapolis and lives there until he’s 35, through the Peyton Manning years no less, would root for the Patriots? If he used IU to get a raise from Boston in the middle of his worst season, then I doubt he ever returns to college. That Celtics roster is going nowhere in the East. So he limps along at $7mil a year for 3 more years. Maybe he pulled a Saban with Texas move where Ainge pissed him off so he used IU to make the Celtics come to the table. But damn that’s Macheavellian, especially if it induced IU to fire Archie. Cold blooded.

Anybody that calls themself a masshole and roots for the patriots can get f-ed. That crap is so absurd there’s like 1% of me that wants to believe he’s calling ainges bluff or something. Wishful thinking...

I have a hard time believing Boston upped his salary eight months after they already redid his contract and in the middle of the worst season for Stevens ever. If Mrs Stevens pulled that off she ought to be commissioned to meditate peace in the Middle East.

So your sources have Stevens as no longer a possibility?

I’ve been following IU basketball online since the firemikedavis.com days. Ugly as it was. I also had some good connections on the Indiana HS basketball scene. So much so that I belong to some closed chat groups with Indiana coaches. The type where we see these internet wannabes text these coaches for info and then post it online as “confirmed sources.” Interesting phenomenon. With that said I moved away and didn’t keep up with that stuff for the last few years. And I’lladmit even these guys had me a little excited about Stevens. I wanted it to be so. But unless he’s pulling some Saban-esque non denial, you can’t reconcile the vernacular used by your “sources” (done deal!) here with any reality. Just all bull ****. I’m sorry to say. Ban me if you want. I’d love nothing more than Stevens to come. First heard of him from my hs coach friend who said he was shocked some dork assistant no one knew about was getting the butler head job, but everyone raved about him. Went to indy to watch them play in the F4. feel bad for iu fams, myself included, who got their hopes up...again. Seen it for twenty years now. We used to argue tealor v davis. Now its stevens v beard. But these rumors are just that...

No chance