go iu bb

I don't know if I would use the word hate, but I didn't like the hire at all when it was announced. Matta and Fife gave me reason for optimism which quickly faded. Every year he's had a bad losing streak and had to recover from it. Every year underperformed preseason expectations.

Right. If you look at last season with the thought that they had a lottery pick and one of the best players in IU history (who happens to be playing well in the NBA now), then last year is actually a pretty disappointing underachievement. I would note that they did underachieve the preseason expectations of just about everyone, which Woodson has done every year.

You just need to look at the football hires over the last 50 years to see that this is true. Knight was luck.

Care to elaborate? Also, did you mean capital H?

Liam saw the system but at that point Woodson was still on the record as saying he wanted to play a more modern 4-out style of basketball and just played the way they had because of the personnel he inherited (TJD and Race) but a change was coming. I bet that's what they sold him. Liam would also play with his buddy Queen and a very good point guard in Fland in this modern style of offense. Then the season happens. Same style with no changes except that it's worse without TJD. Team struggles against bad opponents and gets blown out by almost any team that has a pulse. Fland commits to UK and Queen to MD so he would no longer be playing with them. Woodosn goes on the record saying IU shoots enough 3s, we need to play through the post, and the college game is played inside out. Those statements show the lie of wanting to play a more modern style of basketball. Also, while the season is going down the tubes, Woodson is throwing players under the bus while not taking any blame himself. Let's not forget that he knows Reneau so he might be hearing bad things directly from him. On top of all that, IU stops communicating as much has he and his family would like. This is a dude whose signature celebration move is to mime a phone call so I think talking to people is important to him. But sure, the fans are to blame.

If he believes that, he's even more out of touch with the fanbase than thought. As you can see, there are still rumors and people who haven't given on Woodson being gone. It's not quite to were it was before the "leak" there's still a lot of it after the Liam decommitment. That's not going to change and will probably get worse when IU flames out in the B1GT. If Woodson is staying, there needs to be something official from the AD's office, even if it's just a press release. A press release would be pretty dismissive of the fans though, at this point a press conference were reporters can ask questions is really needed. Woodson staying says they don't care about basketball but no press conference says they don't care about the fans, either. The fans who spend money. The money the school wants.

This doesn't surprise me at all. I was very unimpressed with the Dolson hire and didn't really believe he was fighting hard to get rid of Woodson. If Woodson is retained (likely) and does as poorly as expected next year and beyond (also likely), Dolson should also be fired (unlikely). I want a real AD.

Son of a ... Oh well, it was worth a try. Go iu bb isn't willing to do it for less, go iu bb is worth too much.

Who do you think you are talking to go iu bb without go iu bb directly addressing you? Is go iu bb getting the arrogance right? Wait, of course I am. Go iu bb is perfect.

I'll take the gig after Woodson is finally gone. I am willing to get paid millions of dollars to not coach, not recruit, not talk to the press, etc for 4 years. For that money, I'd be fine with people hating me.

Brutal but I don't disagree. IU administration keep f**king around and find out that people no longer care.

No name attached? Like the Indiana University Simon Skjodt Basketball Team playing in Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall on Simon Skjodt Court with Simon Skjodt instead of Indiana on the jerseys..

A "leak" said he was back. Nothing official from the AD. That said, I'm not holding my breath that Woodson won't be back next year.

We wanted a guy like Chris Ledlum last year. That doesn't bode well for the type of player he's looking for.

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I understand you were just making points that could be made in response to the question of why to keep him. I would, however, dispute that his teams improved over the course of the season. Each year, they've had a losing streak and managed to get out of that and win some games at the end of the season. While that might seem like improvement, it isn't necessarily that. The evidence that it wasn't really improvement is that they didn't really make any noise in the B1GT and got blown out in the NCAAT in the first weekend each time.

Except they haven't released a statement as far as I know. It was leaked to the media that Woodson was coming back but that is it. No official statement either way. Pretty bad way to run things if they are decided that he's coming back.

There's a thread dedicated to only positive posts. You might be happiest there.

I said #2 somewhere, maybe the decommitment thread, sarcastically because I knew some fans would try to put that spin on it.

Huh, this thread seems to have died for some reason.... Let me pick up the phone to call my buddy Liam to find out why.

Which show is that?

Isn't a lot of their access due to their NIL collective and doesn't that NIL collective depend on fans donating? Seems like he's shooting himself in the foot.

Especially when that recruit's signature celebration move is miming a phone call.

No, you're misunderstanding the portal. That window is the time the players have to enter the portal. They don't have to choose a school within that timeframe. That the window is shorter isn't really a big deal, the large majority of players have been in the portal well before 45 days after it opened in the past. Now, whether Woodson can get enough quality players out of the portal is a completely different topic. I doubt it.