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I don't think all, or even most, of that expected $100M media money is from the BTN. I saw Fox was expected to pay the B1G $1B/year for media rights for games not on the BTN. That was a long time ago, like a week ago, before USC and UCLA announced that they wanted to join the party.

ASU is also the more popular of the two, at least in Phoenix (where I live). If be happy with either two but ASU would also be my preference. I'll admit that part of the reason is selfish since it's much closer to me.

Arizona and Kansas both have garbage football programs.

You're champion numbers are absolutely skewed. You choose the last 22 years to get MSU's championship in there. If you had said 25 years that wouldn't included Arizona's and 20 would've been neither. Then you tried to count Maryland's championship or to count Michigan as the champion even though they lost. In the last 22 years the B1G has won 1 championship, not the 2 you say. I get it. You don't think the B1G's style is hurting it abd that Final Fours and runners up is good enough. Agree to disagree.

When you have to skew the numbers to try to make your point you're not doing well. The last championship game a B1G team won was in 2000 (probably not a coincidence that's your starting year). In 2002 Maryland won but they were ACC at that time. Louisville vacated their championship from 2013 but Michigan still lost that game. (Were they awarded the championship or is there no winner from that year?) So the B1G had won 1 championship since 2000 and that was in 2000. Extend that timeline back 3 years to make it the last 25 years instead of 22 and each conference has won 1. I do not like the B1G style of play. Neither do a lot of recruits which is certainly part of the reason for such a long national championship drought. I'm not saying they should play the style of the PAC but they definitely need to change the style of play or the conference might have another 22 years with just 1 championship.

UCLA was in the FF in '21 while MSU was the B1G's most recent in '19. Sure, Michigan lost in the championship game in '18 but I still don't think that makes a difference. Neither conference has had a team win 6 NCAAT games since 2000. Since they're outnumbered by the teams that are committed to the crappy B1G style, they'll probably have to conform but looking at the last national championship, the last national championship runner up, or even the last to make the FF has no bearing on this. I'm hoping that the B1G can change and adding these teams helps. I'm doubtful it will but it would be nice. I know Woodson would like to be able to play a more open style of play.

Their last was in 1997 (AZ). As opposed to the B1G who has a much more recent champion in 2000. I don't think that 3 year difference in national championships before almost all (probably all by 2024) of the players in any of the involved schools were born will be a factor.

Since this is a basketball board, how do you all see the addition of these teams affecting B1G basketball? Does it help the league transition away from the bruising style of basketball or do UCLA and USC get clobbered until they conform to that style?

https://sports.yahoo.com/pac-12-acc-had-chance-to-save-themselves-botched-playoff-142405174.html

Ah, yes. I forgot about those and was just looking at the OOC games.

Apparently Washington and Oregon want in, as well. https://sports.yahoo.com/report-washington-oregon-eyeing-big-011819868.html

What I really like about this schedule is that they give themselves plenty of time before each of the big games to rest and prepare. Xavier: 8 days UNC: 5 days Arizona: 10 days Kansas: 7 days Then all cupcake games are on shorter turn times so they get to practice playing with less rest/prep time against easier teams.

I live in AZ so I approve this message. I don't know if ASU has the credentials the B1G is looking for, but I wouldn't mind them joining too.

Indeed it isn't. I live in AZ and have family in Indiana so I know first hand about the time differences. I think you're right, though. They'd probably have to have a team make the trip then play at least 2 road games before heading back. Like IU would go to California then play at UCLA and USC before heading home. Or USC would go to IN and play IU and PU before heading back. Or maybe 2 teams would go and each play 2 games, switching teams they play like a 4 team "Classic" on 2 sites. For example, IU and PU would go to California. IU would play at UCLA while PU was at USC then they would switch and IU would play at USC with PU at UCLA. IDK, all the scenarios seem terrible. Not as bad for football as basketball, though. The NBA does it but those players aren't also students.

More teams to pummel IU in football. I understand that it would be a great addition as far as additional fans and spanning the whole country for the BTN but it seems like the logistics would be a nightmare. Would there be 9 PM (pacific time) games played in California? Even 7 PM games would be late on the east coast. Or would they be earlier where the west coast fans would have to take off work to watch?

Sorry, misread it.

No way. Let's say IU had a 75% chance of winning each game. Then they'd have ~40% chance of winning 3 of 4. IU's odds of winning aren't that high so the chance of winning 3 is way lower than 50%.

Last I saw, Galloway's recovery time was unknown but it was thought that he would be at 100% by the start of regular season practices. Did I miss an update which says he'll be out longer? I expect the Kansas game to be a loss, too, but I think there is a chance. They'll have 3 new starters and 2 of them are expected to be freshmen. 5* freshmen but still freshmen and not top 5 type. If they take some time to adjust and the team takes time to gel, there is a chance to steal one in a place they rarely lose. A small chance, yes, but still a chance. I think IU beats AZ and Xavier. UNC will be a tough one. There's a chance since it's at home but they're very good on paper. They didn't have a great regular season last year so I guess we'll see if that is the real UNC or the tournament run was.

How is that? Davidson finished last season with a NET ranking of 46. That was only 2 spots behind IU and ahead of ~1/2 the B1G. It's a Quad 1 or 2 game, depending on where it happens. Also, 3 spots behind ND and way ahead of Butler. This looks like a good OOC game. Very winnable but a quality opponent.

They have TJD on this list. Says he just needs an outside shot. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2023-nba-draft-10-college-players-who-could-replicate-jaden-ivey-keegan-murray-and-become-lottery-picks/

This again? It's just like when Woodson was on vacation in FL during the state championship and people were complaining about him not being there. Woodson obviously has a different approach to recruiting than Painter. It seems to be an approach which makes him a scarcity and therefore it has more impact if he does show. We'll see if it works in the long term but it hasn't hurt his recruiting so far.

In Hulls role he can watch recruits but can't talk to them when off campus? Is that correct or is he allowed to do more?

They give us UNC or Duke even in years were not good.

I was checking out the recruiting competition for Newell and noticed something odd Illinois has 9 PF on their roster? That can't be right.

Even some of the higher ranked players. Lander: 5* but wasn't really recruited by many top schools. They turned out to be correct on this one. Hunter: Top 60 recruit. Could be that his medical condition completely derailed his career but it's also possible he wouldn't have been as good as expected even without that. Regardless, ended up as a bust. And then when you get down to around 100 or higher, his success rate at evaluating that was really bad.