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Right, very well could be a coach currently in the tourney. If so there won’t be any leaks it’ll just have to play out. And hey the longer it goes and some of the coaches we think are possibles are still in the tourney the better

College ball is about the landing the right coach AND with the right recruiting. We are in a way UCLA right now. Storied program, fading significance. But as recently as under Crean we had the nation's longest #1 ranking, B1G championships in what was still then as now one of the toughest conferences, SW16s, we just couldn't get over the hump in March and Crean couldn't build roster stability for consistent conf success, and usually couldn't coach solid D so he wore out his welcome at IU -- but we were very much relevant again under Crean. We can clearly be relevant nationally again with the right coach. We all know if we had somehow landed the unicorn of Brad S we would've been immediately relevant and a national power again soon. We all know IU has a great recruiting base in IN and the Midwest. We know we have facilities and culture. But you can't do squat with any of that without the HC and staff being top flight in coaching and recruiting and at IU it has to be clean, has to fit the culture of Indiana basketball -- a lot of programs don't have that limitation - and it is a limitation, not saying at all that it's wrong, very much a believer in the clean program that IU has established over decades, but the UNC's, Kansas's, Syracuses, Kensucky's etc. built themselves up to the top on ignoring or falsifying academics, recruiting ineligible players, paying players and families, creating false academic records, etc., and to compete against that clean means you really have to land an outstanding winning coach that excels consistently in both on court strategy and recruiting. Falls into the no kidding category, but merits recognizing when comparing us to other programs, it's just not all apples to apples.

Never look at Porsches before buying a Chevy ... lol

Lol losing to Oral Roberts, dying here. Had them losing in second round but damn lol

Hey DWB. I don’t think it’s just you, and imo it’s a good question. So the cop out answer is, first, it depends - depends on who we get. It is a cop out but also I think right. It takes a certain type of coach and the right fit to get the most out of an existing roster. Think we’ll need a strong transfer or 2 but worth remembering we haven’t seen Parker Stewart play yet, and I would absolutely bet on Lander having a much stronger season with this one behind him, a full summer of conditioning and on age and body being an actual college kid, he’ll be stronger, bigger and experienced. He’s an exceptional talent, number one ranked point guard n his class — he’ll no longer be hamstrung by his age. All those guys, and Hunter, will play bigger roles - how much they / the team needs to be turned around remains to be seen

The problem had a lot to do with CAM devaluing the outside game. We clearly had guys who could hit shots. But we shot at the bottom of the conference from outside the arc because CAM devalued outside shooting. In a way he’s a throwback coach and it killed us especially when Brunk went down at the start of the season leaving our front court uber thin and over-played.

If someone starts posting flight watching in Bloomington I'm out, lol

With you here. There was a lot of back chatter surrounding the whole Hanner situation, and the threat to deport a player is just so ridiculously outside any thread of decency in "recruiting" that it's just not something you say well, recruiting is tough. There's been back chatter on dirty recruiting tactics surrounding Drew for some time. I just don't see the U going there, and there's enough smoke there that I'd personally not want any part of the risk.

@BGleas is a member here now, and moderating over at HSN (that site crashed and has been down for an extended period). He used to work for the C's and has a lot of good insights. If he posts on this it's worth giving his thoughts the benefit of the doubt. My understanding is the C's don't do that kind of press release, but I'll defer to Gleas if he posts --

Wish CAM the best. He's a classy guy through and through, and a strong coach, but the style of play coupled with the timing just didn't work out. Here's to his landing at a school with a good fit and success down the road.

Just get it right this time. No wifs. Identify the candidate who will take IU back and offer the moon. Stop settling. Just get it right, it’s been 20 years

I am clearly not in this to win any predictions let alone the league :P Glass half full (ok maybe quarter full) -- it's hard to beat any team 3 times, and IU's back is to the wall. Going with a final hope of seeing some semblance of offense again IU 67 Rutgers 65

Honestly I've struggled with this. CAM has clearly failed this season (at least at this point and looking most likely to end the season, but it aint' quite over yet). The recruiting has been strong until this season. Lander was the #1 ranked PG in his class but was also clearly young and not quite ready coming in, especially defensively which kept him off the floor under CAM (he would've played significantly more under Crean). In fairness, and without the idea it's making excuses - it really isn't - losing Brunk at the outset was a major, major loss. Brunk isn't the best player on the team, he was playing either single digit minutes for the most part or less minutes as Race's time grew to end the season, but he was and is both a key big with great energy and hustle, and a floor leader - and we've really missed his on court leadership along with his size and hustle. So we're short on bigs (pun intendedP). How would we have done this season with Brunk? Think it's clear we would've been better and probably comfortably in the tourney right now. And then we lose Franklin in the closing stretch? Just peachy. Yes, injuries happen and how the coach and team responds is important, but man we lack some key depth still (which is also on CAM, in fairness), but you can't just ignore the losses of Brunk and now Franklin and think apples to apples. We're really thin right now in the best conference in the country, of course we're to lose. Sucks. On the other hand, I've had problems / concerns with CAM's way of limiting the perimeter game from the get go, we haven't been able to spread the floor not because we don't have guys who can shoot but because he devalues the outside game in a 'meta' of college basketball that demands the outside game. It's like a throw back approach and one that has bitten us in the @$$ when we lose Brunk, so back to that, CAM put us in the position of likely losing if something were to happen to a key big because he built the team around an old school front line approach without valuing the perimeter game, and that's entirely on him. So end of the day, he has dug his own proverbial grave.

Geez. I for one hope (expect) him to play. Wear a face mask, that’s standard. Need Race

Really nice guy and a long-time poster. RIP Snowling

It is funny, Vitale can be laughable, but he's not wrong. Not saying the U shouldn't have moved on from TC, he failed to create class balance in his recruiting leading to an up year followed by down, gave out scholarships to guys who were not D1 caliber players, and then lost his recruiting momentum and HS coaches' ears in state, but he did take us from a program playing a baseball player etc. after Sampsongate to an outstanding ranked team within 4 years, got us back to winning the B1G outright, the Sweet 16's and some of the most memorable offense-side basketball we've seen (the Wat Shot, etc.). I was never never in the camp that hated on Crean, that was largely driven by the old RMK'ers who can't really accept any new IU coach (my opinion) and look for ways to bash the coach's mannerisms and substitution patterns. It did become clear that he likely would not take IU back to consistently playing for conference titles and NCAA tourney runs, and it made sense to move on from Crean. But it's not like the guy didn't bring IU a lot of success, and clearly, and imo still surprisingly, he was much more successful than CAM has been able to be.

Wth is going on in that game Rutgers getting annihilated

We really missed Brunk this year

Yes and no -- I'm an NBA fan too. Everyone that runs into LBJ runs into LBJ, doesn't change that Boston has been good under Stevens and he's highly regarded as one of the best in the League. All of this is fair, not trying to say otherwise, but there's just no realistic reason to think he's about to jump back into the college game, just because he's finally having a bad season, so far. There's really just nothing there.

I know someone who knows better.... all i'll say :)

Yeah bad year for sure

Not advocating IU shouldn't try, but he left for the League in part because he was tired of the grind of college recruiting, he's done very well in the NBA and there's really no reason to think he'd want to leave Boston to return to coach IU. Not trying to give anyone a hard time, just don't see the reason to think there's any actual chance here.

So how many coaches have won a championship in the NBA and since Stevens has been coaching Boston? I hear what you're saying but seriously, he's considered one of the best by many in the League. I don't know about taking the League by storm, but he's been pretty successful so far and the front office loves him. He stepped into an at best mediocre team, and by year 3 finished 48 and 34. He hasn't had a single season since with less than 48 wins. Not one. 2017 EC Finals, 2018 EC Finals, 2019 EC Semis, 2020 EC Finals. He's alright. :)

Stevens is one of the better coaches in the League, everyone in the League knows that, the Celtics front office loves him, the players love him, he's not going anywhere and definitely not leaving the NBA to return to college coaching. Love Stevens as a coach, but he won't be IU's coach. Just my two cents guys.

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