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Horrible, feel so bad for his family

Over the summer CAM touted Rob as one of the team’s top 3 outside shooters (with Al and Hunter). That was from over the summer scrimmaging and practice not games but he was hitting. He has the form and the ability imo, a lot seems to be about where his head is and whether he’s being encouraged to shoot. Hope he can show that shooting in games next season

Not following you. Among several available possible lineups -- TJD, Galloway, Stewart, Rob, Johnson / TJD, Stewart, Johnson, Rob, Lander etc. etc. Not getting your pushback. The team will run multiple lineups, as usual except under CAM, with multiple looks. We have depth, as in actual depth, and in a 4-out we're not talking traditional power forward/center lineups, that's the point, more guys can run at what this piece is defining as the "power forward" spot. So Baylor started a 6'10 forward and basically 4 guards. All I'm saying is the article is looking a the "4" as a traditional PF, that's limiting, we're going to see a lot of lineups and I'd bet on some pure small ball sets.

same applies to Hunter. He's better than a 34% shooter, the spreadout game is going to benefit him

Good with Race, but there are other guys not included who can play within a 4-out. It's a "power forward" breakdown. It doesn't look at incorporating more small ball sets such as using Stewart, Galloway or Leal. It's a height-based look. Galloway's strength is downhill attacks and finishing at the rim, we all know he needs to develop a jumper but he could potentially flourish with shooters around him. Stewart and Leal are 6'5 shooters. I'd bet on seeing some true small-ball lineups, this writeup just doesn't look at guys under 6'7 except Geronimo because of his obvious athleticism.

Decent writeup but I think it's a bit off on the "power forward" analysis, it's more of a traditional analysis than a 4-out. Will be interesting to see how Woodson implements his offense at IU.

It’s funny, my initial reaction to the Woodson hire was straight disappointment - with all of the build up surrounding Beard etc. But after just a little time, starting to think about the draw Woody could and probably would have in recruiting as a successful, long- term, well-respected NBA coach, and his IU pedigree and the likely immediate credibility all of that would bring, and his record of improving teams in the NBA, I then thought wait, this could turn out to be really good. And now we’re seeing major early returns. Talk about hitting the ground running. I mean, damn. Beyond impressive. Immediately brought players back and filled clear needs in transfers and landed a true two-way stud, elite recruit. And already connecting well with the players by all accounts. I’m not sure what high school recruiting is going to look like in a year with this whole portal thing, but I am sure our recruiting is going to be strong going forward — and with that there’s every reason to believe now that we’ll be a really strong program again and soon.

Lol at Jeff Goodman's trolling -- Jeff Goodman @GoodmanHoops · 4h Indiana Fans: Miller Kopp > JJ Redick

I'm pumped. The length, stretch-the-floor, mobile forwards, and get up and down team is in full effect,

Gotta add that splitting hairs in the 'rankings' doesn't really mean or reveal anything. Guys are ranked based on who saw them, when, how often, against what competition, what they're factoring into the ranking (e.g., athleticism, next-level potential on body-type, competition level, and so on), etc. The difference between a guy ranked 75 and a guy ranked 45 or 50? Often, nothing or you could even flip the two. Just saying that looking at a service's ranking has limited utility, it's why coaches scout heavily and offer guys close to our outside the top 100 all the time. Consensus top 10-15 or top 25 or so are usually in a different category depending on strength of class, but the higher you go the less the difference is.

Roster is looking strong — staff is getting it done fast

No no, Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Kawhi and LBJ all in one

Kid is the perfect example of the type of player Woodson will be bringing in, imo, length, shooting and defensive minded — the bring in a lot of NBA stuff in our offense is exactly what I’ve been talking about and looking forward to seeing. Our shooting is going to improve quickly not just with new players like Bates — who will absolutely improve our outside game as he grows into a college player — but with the spreading of the floor and green lighting of the arc, we have guys who can shoot and what they can do is going to look better. I’m pretty high on our upside going forward now.

When did we change our name to OSU? :)

So dad said something and ref swung then got his Azz handed to him while “throwing” punches like a girl lol — actually, that’s insulting to the girls out there :)

Berger is genuinely exceptional. Anytime I watch her play I want to clone her as a man and put her (him) on the men’s team lol

Here message to IU fans --

I’m going from early practice feedback from players and the way he developed over the first half of the season to work his way into a starting role for a bit. Then teams scouted him and sagged off and he couldn’t hit shots, and maybe he hit that freshman wall. I think his work ethic is there just needs a lot of work on his shot, mechanic is off. If he can develop a shot ....

I have some early concerns with the whole portal thing, development Vs chasing portal players. Guys like Galloway (shooting needs development), Hunter (develop D), etc. have maybe a shorter timeline to develop. Do want to see team improvement through the portal, don’t want to see NBA-style trade market. A guy like Vic couldn’t shoot early, shot like in the 20’s from deep, junior year shot plus 40 percent from the arc. Any reference to Vic is kind of the outlier because of his huge strides in development, but the signs were there, elite athleticism and D to go with good free throw form and steady development, lots of promise. Vic is an outlier but there are lots of guys with high level talent and upside that can get passed over in this shiny new thing approach to team building. Galloway is an exceptional player with a strong work ethic, really good floor vision and downhill skill. Absolutely needs to develop a shot, but really should have that opportunity on what he has shown as a player before running into the portal, imo - long rant but seeing early signs of a shiny new thing instead of development approach

Funny thing to me, the 2 and 3 really are the same position and should be interchangeable, just different sides of the floor (NBA). I agree with where you're coming from, it's just that we tend to look at guards and wings when it's sort of like having a point and two "wings" or 2 on-ball guards and a 'wing' (lol). I think (aggressive) Rob can play well off-ball and can man that 'wing' spot, hope to see him shoot more and with confidence, his outside shot can be strong when his head is in the game. (I'm kind of betting that the confidence - head issues were coming from CAM's style of coaching and we'll see a lot of improvement there under Woodson.) Would think Race and Hunter will run at the 4, but we haven't really had a baseline - running type 4 (e.g., Troy). I would like to see more of Galloway inside, he's around 6'4 or whatever but he's an excellent finisher, quick and strong 'downhill' and around the rim and would bet on him having a good soph jump.

I tend to think we'll see a difference in 'starters' to start the season and starters as the season progresses (as we did last season, etc.). Galloway is not ready to start on the wing imo. I like the kid a lot, but he has a lot of work to do to develop an outside shot. We need outside shooting along with slashing from the wing. I'd like Hunter on the wing but his D was not consistently at a level to guard wings. Leal can fit there assuming further development. We're thin on wings. We tend to get hung up on positions but also think we'll see Woodson working to establish more 'positionless' ball. That's going to come through more recruiting of length and quickness but would bank on seeing more player development to get that going.

Why can’t they just get rid of the stupid possession arrow? Why not jump balls? I would like the end of the one and one

2019-20, from 2/1 through the end of the season, that’s 11 games, he shot 10/22. The Feb 1 game was his breakout game that season, first game with real minutes, 28. That’s why I remember it and what I’m talking about, clearly well over 40 percent from that point to end of season and the stretch that mattered. He obviously didn’t end up at that level this past season. As I said, I think that has to do at least in part with CAM’s offense. Maybe I’m right maybe I’m wrong, but I see a guy who given floor spacing and an offense that looks to use the perimeter can and has shot better than the stats you are pulling up. He’s better than a 32 or 34 percent shooter. End of the day we’ll see, he should have much better opportunity to shoot, and hey if he hits at 36 or whatever it will be improvement over last year m, thank God.

No the season before last — and factoring in his shooting when he had just returned from missing an entire season from his condition is clearly misleading. Look you don’t have to agree with me, proof will he how be does next season but I’d bet you money he’ll do better — talk again this time next year

Those percentages on his outside shooting are really misleading. It’s easy to say a guy is x percentage, and not saying it’s unfair to point them out, but again he was shooting around 38 percent for much of the season and finished the last 10 games of the prior season shooting North of 40 percent. Then there’s the fact that CAM’s offensive “system” was, well, offensive to watch and devalued the outside game. What can Hunter, and others do in a system designed to free up outside shooting? You think Leal’s percentages show his actual shooting - no way, kid can absolutely shoot. Hunter’s D is not the best but it did improve, and look at a guy like Watford, got all kinds of flack his frosh and soph years for his D and inability to finish in traffic. How was he as a junior and senior? Gotta give guys a chance and not make assumptions, Hunter will - imo - absolutely be better under Woodson. CAM’s offense was just bad for perimeter guys. Hunter has a lot of promise and that’s what I see. But enough on Hunter, damn Geronimo could turn into a monster player, really glad he’s back