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Gotta add, since I'm going overboard in my mancrush on Geronimo (!) eFG% Geronimo - 56% (4th on team, 3rd not counting Childress) Kopp - 46% (11th, 9th not counting Childress & Duncomb) Thing is, eFG% specifically adjusts for the fact that a 3-pointer is worth more than a 2PT FG. And Kopp is still 10% lower.

Actually the only stat that had Childress and Duncomb above both of them was Boards, and again, their numbers are irrelevant. If you remove Childress and Duncomb from all of the posted stats the only changes it would make as to Kopp are in the per 40 min stats, raising him up by 2 to 10th in PPG, by 1 in Blocks to 7th, by 2 in Boards to 7th, by 2 in FG% to 10th. No other impact on Geronimo is he's above those guys in every stat on a per 40 basis other than Boards -- which basically emphasizes the point.

I'm not following. How am I manipulating numbers? These are simple per 40 stats and total stats. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/indiana/2022.html No manipulation. The only point about Childress & Duncomb is that they barely played, their placement at 1 and 2 in Boards is obviously irrelevant. I haven't checked Kopp's NWU numbers, he's always been a good shooter, but wasn't one to put the ball on the floor or rebound. That certainly didn't change. I get why Kopp was out there -- to create space at least by his shooting threat -- but he didn't take many shots so whatever utility there was in that was clearly limited, and his production was just poor, particularly considering his minutes. Geronimo's minutes jumped to plus 20 in the last few games, so I'm maybe just preaching to the choir, but man staff, wake up.

Some more stats Per 40 Min Geronimo - 13.8 PPG (4th on team), 11.8 Boards (3rd, but really 1st behind Childress & Duncomb), Blocks 2.2 (2nd ), FG% .518 (3rd), 3PT 31% (7th), FT 57% (12th) Kopp - 9.5 PPG (12th on team), Boards 4.1 (9th ), Blocks .4 (8th), FG% .356 (12th), 3PT 36% (4th), FT 86.5% (2nd), Totals Geronimo - Points 148 (6th), Min 429 (8th), Boards 121 (4th), Blocks 31 (3rd), Turnovers 31 (5th), FG 52% (3rd) Kopp - Points 209 (5th), Min 879 (4th), Boards 89 (5th), Blocks 9 (4th), Turnovers 32 (4th), FG 36% (12th) Last few games (UM,. Wyoming, St. Mary's due to Geronimo's injury - not Illinois, Iowa) Geronimo - Pts 5, 15 and 9, shot 1-2, 1-4 and 1-1 on 3's, 2, 7 and 6 boards Kopp - Pts 5, 0, and 0, shot 2-4, 0-1, 0-1 on 3's, 3, 2 and 1 boards. Geronimo's improvement areas are FT's and growing his outside game, but the form is there, and already 31% despite poorer shooting earlier. Has to improve the handle to play more at the wing, but also saw improvement on that through the year. His minutes grew to 20-plus at the end of the season and he produced way better than Kopp, it's not close.

Honestly, he's already way, way better than Kopp out there. Someone needs to wake up. He's been primarily at the 4, coming in for Race, while Kopp has been largely unproductive, a liability defensively, and inconsequential.

Going all Will Smith on them?

I'm hoping we get X Booker, 6'11 with a 36% outside shot, a running big and a rim protector, really like his potential and current level of play.

JMO, any and all speculation about Geronimo is just unfounded worry. Everything I've heard is that he is absolutely back, expected to be a key player for us next season, running right off his last few games and tourney play, and post-game interviews. He aint going anywhere

Poor kid has no future in politics :)

I would want to get out of Kentucky as soon as possible too :)

Calhoun’s health is the word…

It all came down to IU self-reporting, of course those other programs don't and then fight what are clearly much more serious violations. But in terms of rosters, we did have some very good ones under Crean, I mean Cody, Vic, Yogi, et al, those were some great rosters, we just didn't get past the SW16

I had Nova v UCLA in my bracket. Now one of Nova's leading scorers is out....

JG is in that group for sure

Right, I never said emulate UM’a schedule. And yeah i’m not sure why there would be complaining about adding B to the schedule, I’m certainly not

Who’s talking knee jerking? We’re talking adding a Bellar etc to the schedule

This is what we were kind of expecting under Woodson, a 4 in 1 out, with mobility, p&r, outside shooting with Kopp - Stew. Didn’t materialize, but may see things more like this next season

Yeah i have no problem with moving on for fit etc, happens all the time, just think that the better approach and the one you usually see is for the HC to wish the departing assistant well and thank him for his contributions, not publicly mske comments msking it clear he canned him

It’s all opinion, but there are some basic points that imo really aren’t about opinion — how a HC announces an assistant coach’s departure. There isn’t a good reason to make it clear publicly that Woodson is pushing him out. Whether it’s ego or poorly thinking things through or whatever, the better practice, and especially given this is Fife the former player, is to handle it with class

I can see where you’re coming from. I’m not sure what Josh meant, i thought we were talking about how adding a Bellar can make a real difference in improving SOS, that was Brum’s point as I understood it. For me we all get somewhat over focused on how bad we’ve been, because that was TC’s last season and all of CAM’s. CAM was terrible. TC did have us winning B1G titles and getting back to SW16’s - he wasn’t the right guy long term, couldn’t build consistency bc he’d build for 1-2 seasons and then have bad classes and a poor bench, but wr weren’t terrible then, we were just inconsistent. All of it stems from Sampsongate and the complete destruction of the program, but we took a big step forward to climbing the ladder back this season - now we need to strengthen the schedule

That surprises me, i’m one who believes in depth, keeping legs fresh, using different looks off the bench. But that’s an interesting stat of this year’s tournament for sure

Not really. Look at a UM, 17-14 and we beat them in the B1G and finish with a stronger overall record and we play in the play in and they get an 11, mostly bc of who they played - not who they beat. They lost most of their games to the better teams but were rewarded highly for their SOS. We do need to improve for sure, especially outside shooting and actually using the perimeter, but even replacing just a few of the real low SOS teams with teams like Bellar improves our SOS a lot. I guess we’re all talking degrees and aren’t really disagreeing (imo), but a Bellar is a step in improving our odds

I don’t believe in conspiracy theories and blatant ncaa cheating, but i’m getting a very big oh wouldn’t it be great for ratings if Duke plays for the title feeling from our fabulous ncaa. The story line is getting pushed big time and it looks like it on the court

Sensei, all can know good, as good, only because there is evil’ Modern variant — “All can know titles in basketball, as IU, only because there is PU”

I’m no consultant but scouts i know have said similar things