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So, if we forget MM first half of last season, Rice's second half of last season, and Carlyle on ball shooting % and this staffs history of bad 3 pt shooting... LOL, for one that claims others are writing a narrative, you sure are going Tom Clancy on these stats.

Not even 2 fold, but as you said, narratives.

Good God, I would hope one of the richest NIL pools in NCAA MBB, at a historic program, with great facilities could buy you an above average roster. MW sure as hell isn't going to put in the work to recruit that talent. That said, what about this coach staff instills confidence that they can, you know...coach? Do you not expect another season of hockey line changes, MW pissing and moaning to refs every time out, and eventual blank stares of indifference.

IU was 271st in 3 pt %, below 200 2 of the last three seasons. But yeah that one guy, if you ignore the first half of the season...narratives indeed.

I think the tint on your Crimson colored glasses may be a bit thick. Carlyle and Mgbako are borderline top 50 NBA draft prospects, maybe top 35-40 if you take out foreign players and no one else cracks top 100. It's a better roster, it should be for all the millions spent, but a lot is based on a projected large improvement in shooting assisted by a coaching staff with a history of not being able to improve shooting. What could go wrong?

So, reading even pro MW folks, it seems the overwhelming majority see this as likely a decent to good season, allowing MW to bow out gracefully as a program rebuilder. Glad that we sacrificed 5 Star recruits that wanted to play at IU, a sh!t load of NIL that any coach could have used successfully, and a year of everyone's lives, so Woodrow could have good feels. Let's hope his players can find their own threes and he decides to not quit on his players again this season. If not, he may need a few more years to feel good enough about himself to "retire."

Nice. Wonder if they go as each other for Halloween. Im going as Mike Woodson coaching the end of the B1G tourney Nebraska game:

Well with 18 Big Ten teams not quite rock bottom...at least better than Ben Johnson (the Canadian sprinter or Lions OC?) and Dirk Diggler

So better than Rutgers and Archie Miller is the benchmark? I'm speechless.

SO you are saying Woodrow is pantsed in recruiting by a historically bottom feeder program with an "arena" that would fall somewhere in the middle of the top 10 Indiana high school gyms, that shares practice facilities with WBB, gymnastics, and wrestling. Resource disparity indeed. Wow that's embarrarssing. Are those stands full, hard to see all the way up to row 26 with the bank of 30 60 watt bulbs concentrated on the floor.

Pikiell took a horrid program that averaged 23 loses a season the 3 yrs prior to his arrival and has had them in the top 25 in 3 of his 8 seasons the first time since 1979 and 3 of th 7 times in the 111years of the program and made the tourney twice, first times in over 30 yrs. Pikiell has easily out coached and out performed MW. Not saying I would want him at IU, but what each has done for their program and who has done more isn't even debatable.

If you are Min, NW, or Neb these are all decent three year spans. Is one of these are the coach of the most basketball rich, traditionally and resource wise, in the Big 10? Well then all three would be @$$.

Don't shoot the messenger. https://x.com/CBKReport/status/1779633485621113149

Not even top 10 in the conference, maybe not top 15.

I think I make him out in the background, can't be certain, since the guy is actually carrying his own bag.

I was told that if you ignore the second half of last season or away games or the 18 of 35 games going oh for, we have some excellent transferred in three point shooters.

In all seriousness, is that even mediocre? Gifted the junior and senior seasons of an AA all time great Hoosier, a great 5th and then 6th year senior compliment, and recruiting a lottery pick PG and they were just mediocre.The first all Woody roster was a disaster. Until proven otherwise Woodrow's hump is becoming mediocre. But hey he has only been at this coaching thing for 28 years, so give him time.

I, for one, am just proud of you all for bringing your substantive posts to the Fire Mike Woodson thread. Thanks to all

Those damn guard's shatty perimeter defense really hamstrung poor Woodrow. You know what they say, "defense travels," it's too bad those perimeter defenders couldn't be bothered to find someone to teach them the concepts of or motivate them to play lock down defense. Hope all these transfers can remember their defensive teaching, hell, maybe they can help out TG MM, GC learn to defend, so Woodrow can at least have solid defenders.

True, he might have found a way for them to be blown out by Nebraska 4 times.

For all the excuses as to who could be relied on to shoot the three, IU was just slightly below the national average, a bit more than a single percentage point off the mean (1.6% below the median), yet they were last of any major conference team in attempt rate and damn near last in the whole of the NCAA. This visual is alarming: major schools and then IU isolated.

Maybe don't excuse MW for last season's debacle because of the guards shooting in the very next post then.

Yet you call him hamstrung, which in sports connotes him, not of his doing, being put in the undesirable position. Which side of your mouth are you talking out of now, I can't tell by your typing?

I mean if MW can get an all time IU greats to stick around for their 3rd and 4th seasons and recruit 6'-6" 1 and done McD AA point guards with consistency, I'm on board. We are totally locked in for the triennial Sweet 16 appearance and can pummel those naysayers with his better than Coach Archie Miller stats. Toot toot.

He had three off seasons to get the backcourt of his choosing prior to last year. You consistently blame the exact players he chose to recruit and/or keep, yet absolve MW of all blame. How you don't see your hypocrisy is baffling.