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Sure he's a great 10-12 guy, but if Leal rockets up the depth chart to getting significant minutes, it means you are not a "big time" P4 school, at least in that current season.

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If you add just Leal they go from 38 to 28. Kinda shows the uselessness of such rankings.Though if Leal gets his extra, extra year he should definitely take a copy of the before and after Torvik ranking into his NIL discussions.

Do you not consider that a valid concern? If he really was MW's boy, is there no concern he could be a discontented voice in the locker room? If he comes back with a lesser role and lesser NIL deal does that lead to a level of resentment? I'm sure CDDV will or has vetted the situation, but Leal probably lands near the bottom of the depth chart so not sure how much he will help. The phrase, "it only takes one bad apple to ruin the bunch" comes to mind. I am indifferent to Leal's return but don't think questioning it is solely sour grapes about his Senior Night speech gaffe.

I heard somewhere he landed the part in a Broadway play. He is playing Lucius Best/Frozone in The Incredibles.

I'm currently taking internet Muay Thai and hope to be tough enough to allow me to add my area code to my avatar in about a month. I'll stay away from the mean streets of discord until then, wouldn't want to run into the likes of the Destroyers or Gramercy Riffs.

Any ideas what to title his new thread to get focussed discussion of portal players with IU interest? Would something like "Overpaying mid major talent and the horrors of not being ranked in the preseason top 25," work? Or would that likely attract discussion of slow coaching staff construction and favorite Bloomington eateries?

Are we still doing the roster construction/NIL melodramatic histrionics thing today? Asking for a friend

Reminds me a bit of the 2013 Syracuse team that had 1 guy over 6'9 but their guard and wing length just confounded IU. Hopefully IU can play at a similar level defensively minus the march up zone.

So you just want some sham job to pay them an exorbitant salary so you can pretend that they are playing for the school for the love of the university or go back to the exploitative indentured servitude that the NCAA and university imposed upon student athletes while raking in billions. You find it more just that some athletes had a hard time paying for clothes or trips home or even food so that the schools could just pocket that extra $10M they earn off the athletes? Big changes are needed, but the old system was far more unjust. Spoiler: Little Chinese kids don't make your clothes for $1.27 a day for the love of the company either.

Does this all but but put the Goode return to rest?

Guards guards everywhere, MW is rolling over in his hammock.

So if he doesn't do what a top 50-60 coach should do what does that make him?

Twitter people = hot seat. LTFOL

Because saying that is obviously ignorant. So, by declaring the HC is patently a bad HC if he doesn't make the tourney, the year in which he has to piece together the entire roster, is a way to say he is not and will not be the guy without saying it. There is no way IU is just going to ride along with a 50-60th level HC for years, so ipso facto if he doesn't make the tourney he should be fired.

Well there is one guy that has already declared that he is not a top 50-60 coach if they don't make the tourney next season. Would you expect IU to just ride with a bottom of the barrel P4 coach?

Are you sure?

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Does he have the length to be a rim protector?

Almost forgot, Rick Pitino also not a top 50-60 coach

If you think he may only get 2 seasons, excluding a major program scandal, reality is not your friend and your nom de plume is spot on.

You are wanting your cake and wanting to eat it too. You can't start on the penthouse before laying the foundation. Everyone expecting a tourney team are actually asking for a top 40 team(OSU 41, Boise St 44, SMU 46, WVU 51didn't make it; UNC 36 Texas 39 were last 4) all made from ashes(0 returning players) of the MW era. I hope he starts to focus on HS recruiting, but there isn't much available at this point, so patience may be needed. As of now, of the 7 or 8(Goode) on next years roster 2 are returning for 26-27. That is not a receipt for sustained success.

Hurley started at UConn in 2018 the portal launched on October 15, 2018 so he still missed the tourney and had 3 seasons without a tourney win even with the portal. They also didn't have to replace all 15 players in their first season. Oh and IU was 54 in Net. I don't imagine you won't be throwing a fit if IU is in the same boat as they were last season. Drawing a pass fail line in the sand based on making the tournament is worthless. Everyone hopes for season 1 success, but building a culture, rebuilding in state recruiting ties, constantly trending upward is essential the first season or 2.

Dan Hurley and Todd Golden, the last 3 National champions, say hello.