ctucker

  Sadly, I wonder if that isn't a part of the problem with one of our much desired "leaders". I'm not sure "team first" is a concept some have or ever will grasp.

Each of the men you mentioned also are/were GREAT leaders. Most people wouldn't even put Yogi in the "good" category. That's the area he needs to improve on most in my eyes.

Not to derail, but I don't think we were going to win 20 games with anyone. We were losing EJ and DJ no matter what. Jamarcus Ellis and Deandre Thomas punched their own tickets out of town by dealing/using coke. IF Jordan Crawford, Armon Bassett and Eli Holman had stuck around it would have taken a miracle for them to have collectively pulled their heads out of their a**** and played together and made the grades. On top of all that we had the recruiting sanctions. No one was coming in here and winning 20 games.

I can handle the world's stupidity just fine. I just choose not to contribute to it.

Since you've looked around at other boards, honest question: are they similar to ours in terms of generating and clinging to daily rumors? Do they seem capable of rational discussion without being labeled "us" or "them"? On in intelligence scale where do ours rank?

  "Consensus"? What does that mean?

Many ways to answer a question without giving a definitive no.

Corroborating what any fan with half a brain cell thought all along.

Is this the simplemindednes that we're rolling with tonight? Whatever sticks I guess...

CTC has no doubt felt the heat from our fanbase this season to say the least. He's heard the boos, chants about him at his son's high school basketball games, hack writers harassing his wife... After a long arduous season he thanks the fans that haven't been nasty and have treated his family well as well as stating that it's been an honor to coach Iu and work with Don Fischer. The guy thanked fans and expressed how much of an honor it is to coach at IU. I'm no fan of Tom Crean THE COACH and I realize tensions are at an all time high, but our fanbase can be truly embarrassing. What a joke.

Well clearly Coach K didn't see the kid's Youtube highlights!

  Interesting. First I've heard that over the years. Would love to see someone with sources back that up

All good points, but the circumstances are much different now from when Bennett was previously offered. As for Hoiberg, I've heard that he's pretty devoted to Iowa State, but the dude will likely never win a national championship there. If he wants to compete at the highest level and get compensated as such, I believe he'd hear us out. Some of the talking heads have indicated that many close to Hoiberg believe he's only leave ISU for the league, but still it's worth the call. I haven't heard the rumors about Marshall, but of there's smoke you can cross him off the list.

Ok I gotcha. I'm just not sure the majority of our fanbase has the patience right now for that. I think we're in agreement that if the resume is questionable its not worth the gamble.

I think Hoiberg, Marshall & Bennett are all considered up and coming coaches. Every one of those guys will either move to a big time program or get an NBA gig. Pretty confident that a guy making a name for himself at IU and then moving elsewhere is a highly unlikely scenario. IU has lost some luster, but it's still a destination job.