Hoosierfan2017

How many turn into Bill Self or Jay Wright compared to how many who don’t?

How are you going to group McDermott and McCollum in the same category here? Their similarities end after the first two letters of their last name. McDermott has been a D1 coach for nearly 25 years and the last four years has gone sweet 16, round of 32, elite 8, sweet 16. I’d be very happy if IU landed him.

Oh no… not you joining Scotty R with the Bob Knight comparisons, lol. We should be “too good” for a coach from Drake. Chris Beard is begging for the job, Will Wade would probably take it too. I’d definitely rather go with Chris Collins. If McCollum is the best we can do then I guess that says it all. The thing that got me through the Mike Woodson hire was his age meaning he wouldn’t be here long term. I don’t have the energy for another tank train, so I guess I’d just accept IU’s mediocre standing as a program, try to adjust my expectations accordingly, and hope that I’m wrong.

If the best that IU basketball can do is Ben McCollum, it’s a depressing as hell signal that IU basketball is a middle of the road basketball program so far removed from “blueblood” status. Maybe McCollum is the boy wonder that many on here have convinced themselves of, but IU basketball shouldn’t have to take that chance. How does the program go from allegedly offering Brad Stevens $10+ million a year to McCollum being the next option?

McCollum can just plop down his D2 championship rings and recruits will come play for IU for a scholarship and a few hundred a month in food vouchers.

Shoot for the pie in the sky candidate who was never coming to IU and then fall back to the D2 guy when that doesn’t work out. I see Dolson still hasn’t learned the art of the backup plan.

He was an assistant at four P5 programs and has four of Dayton’s nine tournament appearances over the last 35 years. He won 68.8% of his games, and over his last four seasons he won 73.9% of his games and 74.3% of his conference games. Maybe there were personality concerns that should’ve been obvious during the interview process, idk, but he was definitely a good candidate at the time and a great example of someone who can succeed at a lower level but couldn’t handle a job like IU.

While true, we’re dealing with the same guy who bought out Archie for $10 million to turn around and hire Mike Woodson.

That’s because winners can turn around a program in a single season in the portal/NIL era. Louisville just went 18-2 in the ACC. Coach Cig just took freaking IU football to the CFP in year one. Arguably the worst P5 program in the country. I have absolutely zero interest in waiting around 2-3 years once again to see if the coach can turn things around. Whoever they hire, he needs to be someone who can win immediately.

Coaches get at least 4 years here and then $10 million to go away. Not exactly a bad gig. If a coach is too afraid to come here because he wants more than 4 years to build a contender then I have no interest in him.

Boring basketball should be a strike for candidates. I want basketball that’s fun to watch. Too often during the Archie and Woodson eras even wins were brutal watches.

God forbid the fanbase wants to get back to winning instead of sitting through more crappy basketball.

They told us that when they hired Mike Woodson. This would just be doubling down and leaving no doubt.

He had a great first year at Drake, definitely. Drake wasn’t exactly in the dumpster when he took it over, and he benefited from continuity by bringing over many of his players. IU will basically have an empty roster heading into the transfer portal. Can be navigate the portal to build a team on the fly that can compete in the Big 10 next season?

BAnonBanners baby!

He isn’t even the safe pick. Hes been to fewer tournaments than IU over the past 15 years. Hes the “we’ve given up on trying” pick. Cronin is the safe, boring pick.

McCollum would be so underwhelming. I’ve been waiting my whole life for IU to be good. I don’t want to wait yet again for another coach to come in and take several years to try to figure things out. Shades of “don’t worry, it takes four years to learn the packline defense.”

I was talking about his tweet regarding Stevens/Drew/Otz not being in the running.

I would have absolutely zero issues with that. He committed the grave sin of recruiting in 21st century high-level college basketball, though, so IU won’t even have him on the list. Another “most virtuous” banner incoming.

He’s a doofus, but he’s 100% correct here. Don’t overthink it and roll with Beard. I know there’s a lot of “we wouldn’t hire him before the DV incident so we definitely won’t now” but there’s a scenario where that isn’t the case. Maybe that was his rock bottom moment and he’s a changed man, idk. That’s what the interview process is for, but that’s a scenario where he could be a seen as a legitimate candidate now when he wasn’t before.

The same thing IU has been during every step of the way this century - self sabotage.

He doesn’t need Indiana sources to know whether those guys are still in the running.

A lot of the Beard angst would go away if he started winning. IU would have to weather the initial storm, but put a top 15 team together and the large majority of the fanbase would love him.

If “better than Woodson” is the way we have to sell the hire, we’re in trouble.. Don’t let it get past Beard/Wade/Collins, imo.

Oh I wholeheartedly believe he’s a legit candidate. Nothing would be more “IU basketball” than hiring him. We’re a joke of a program, and Dolson is an empty suit who does whatever the IU basketball overlords tell him to do. We thought the Mike Woodson chatter was a joke, and then Dolson hired him, raised his salary for making the NCAA tournament, and then brought him back for a completely undeserved fourth season. *cue the responses that it wasn’t Scott’s fault because he had no power 12 months ago but suddenly has complete control*