Hoosierfan2017

His legacy as a player 40+ years ago will be completely overshadowed by his failures as head coach. When people think “Mike Woodson/IU basketball,” this is what they will remember.

“I came back to try to put this team in the best position possible. I’m going to continue to do that.“ Feel free to start doing that anytime now.

Positive - IU didn’t lose yesterday

I can’t believe we’re stuck with another year of Mike Woodson because Dolson pinky promised him four years lmao.

We’re 8-6 WITH Xavier this season. 4 of those wins were against mid majors. 3-5 in conference play. I’m so sick of Mike Woodson and the IU administration. We need a completely overhaul from top to bottom.

But but but firing Mike Woodson would be bad publicity!!

I want him. He gone to as many sweets 16s since 2018 as IU has gone to in my lifetime. He’d be much better than Dusty.

Louisville getting Musselman while we’re stuck with another season of Mike Woodson would be absolutely brutal.

That fire made it over the hump.

That’s how I’ll remember him. I wasn’t alive when he was a player at IU. Heck, my parents were in elementary school when he was. His tenure as coach will be the only memories I have of him. Wine, cigars, and Ls. The Mike Woodson way.

Dolson will probably give him another $1 million raise like he did after Woodson achieved the unthinkable and took us to back to back NCAA tournament blowout losses.

IU is a complete and utter joke.

Objectively there’s nothing Woodson could say that would satisfy the fanbase, but he’s picking the worst possible things. Stop. Making. Excuses.

It’s the ‘woe is us’ defeatist attitude that the administration wants us to have so they can excuse cheaping out and making a mediocre hire. It’s not “IU can’t.” It’s “IU won’t.” Use some of that surplus and offer $7 million a year. If you still can’t get a proven coach (they definitely could) then just shut down the program completely.

Literally no one is saying that. We’re saying we don’t want to hire a mid major coach with one great season in his coaching career at a time when the program is on life support.

Calipari before UK: In what world is that anything like Dusty May?

The “IU guy” crowd is ridiculous and should be completely ignored, imho. The insistence on an IU guy got us Mike Woodson. There are no qualified IU guys. Fife, Alford, Lewis. None of them are guys the fanbase would want if they didn’t go to IU. Steve Alford is the most qualified of the bunch, and he’s bounced around from school to school delivering mediocre results for the past 20+ years. “IU guy,” if ever considered, should only be considered when judging between two equally qualified candidates. It should never take someone from non-candidate to candidate like it did for Mike Woodson, and like people are trying to do for Dusty May.

The “we need an IU guy” obsession got us the Mike Woodson disaster. Instead of realizing that the college a basketball coach went to decades in the past shouldn’t be a “double check plus” in the job search, some people are doubling down and demanding the mid-major flavor of the month. It’s Archie Miller and Mike Woodson combined into one.

Are we really back to the Bob Knight comparisons? In what world is Archie Miller a bad comparison to Dusty May but Bob Knight comparisons make sense?

I don’t particularly care about how much a coach did or didn’t “build a program.” Sure, a guy can go to a school and slowly build a successful program with little to no success. We’re not asking him to come build a program for the Little Sisters of the Poor. We’d be asking him to come jump into the lion’s den and compete with the very best of the best on the court and in the recruiting world. He’s never done that or anything close to that as a head coach. Archie was better prepared to come do that coming from a school like Dayton than May would be coming from a school like FAU.

The Dusty May fascination is 90% because he has an IU connection, imo. If he was Dusty May, former manager at Central Michigan University, people wouldn’t want him nearly as much. He’s had one great season as a head coach. We just hired and fired a mid-major coach who had more success in a better conference. May’s supporters say “there’s no comparison to Archie,” but there’s no way to know that. Archie was more proven at the time. I’d rather hire a proven P5 guy. I can’t do the whole “sure we stink in year 3 but we need to give him time” thing again. IU needs someone who can win right away because the fan base’s patience is completely gone.

Woodson acts like a guy who loves the title but hates the job. He’s not a guy who is going to roll up his sleeves and grind. Hes not going to go pound the pavement on the recruiting trail. The dude can’t be bothered to even learn the names of the 5 star players he’s recruiting. He’s a guy who is going to pour a glass of wine, light a cigar, and sit back and relax. Teams take after their coach, and IU basketball is no different.

It’s indicative of a guy who doesn’t care all that much about winning or losing. Same way an NBA player gets blasted when he’s seen partying at the club after an embarrassing loss. Disconnected play, unmotivated players, and bad roster construction are all things you’d expect from a team when you find out the head coach is knee deep in cigars and wine moments after another embarrassing home loss to a mediocre team. He behaves like a semi-retired man.

We need some donors with the SEC-donor mentality. Does anyone think an Alabama donor would sit through a football season like our current basketball season, watch from the sidelines as Alabama gets embarrassed at home by Vanderbilt, and be content? Not a chance. Our donors apparently aren’t built like that.

No, I wouldn’t. And Archie did happen. And then Mike Woodson happened. Hiring a third guy in a row with no P5 experience doesn’t exactly reassure me. If he hadn’t been an IU manager 25 years ago people wouldn’t be pushing him nearly as hard as they are. He’s had one great seasons in six years.