Hoosierfan2017

He’s talking about me. He seems incapable of understanding that sometimes losing in the short term is better for the program. You don’t have to look any further than IU football to see how true that is. Losing our last three games last year by a combined 10 points last year was the best thing that could’ve happened to IU football. No way Allen gets fired if he wins them to make a bowl, and no way Allen is sitting at 10-0 right now as the IU head coach. Idgaf if some Mike Woodson disciple on a message board thinks that means I’m “not a fan”.

If Woodson wants to fire every person who questions every moronic decision he makes then that’s fine. If he wants to surround himself with yes men as he has, that’s his decision to make. Hopefully he will not be making those decisions as coach of the IU basketball team for much longer.

“That’s not my job” - Mike Woodson, about every aspect of his job that he doesn’t want to do.

Do you think Trey and Leal are giving each other wet willies in the locker room instead of watching film? The most likely explanation is the obvious one, but your blind devotion to the fearless leader prevents you from considering it.

Wonder where he’ll go when Deion inevitably leaves after this season.

Big Noon kickoff is ruining college football.

Reporter - Coach, how are you going to get the team over the hump this year? Mediocre Mike - By separating my 6th year seniors in the locker room because they’re friends with each other.

Why would Woodson think moving their lockers would have any impact on that? The locker room isn’t that big, so it’s not like moving their lockers would prevent them from hanging out with each other. Just seems like yet another example of Woodson throwing his ego around and wanting everyone to know he’s the boss.

I love that the bottom post was the first post in this thread after the top post lol.

The team won’t be this bad all season obviously, but it demonstrates why bringing Woodson back was such a dumb mistake. You can buy the best ingredients in the world and it won’t matter if your chef is a dud.

If Woodson was a likable, hardworking, successful coach, this would be a total nothing burger. He’s none of the 3, and that’s why there’s an 11 page discussion about firing a young staffer. Firing Howard encapsulates everything wrong with the Woodson administration.

Woodson gets a massive pass from a contingent of the fan base because he’s a former player. If he was just judged on his tenure as head coach, it would be virtually unanimous that he needs to go. He deserves zero benefit of the doubt at this point. He’s a petty egomaniac who gets rid of anyone who doesn’t devote 100% loyalty to him.

Targeting continues to be the worst rule in college football.

Maybe it’s copium, but the more I think about it, the more I think he’ll stay. This season shows that the sky is the limit at IU. I truly don’t think there’s anything a school like Florida can give him that IU can’t, other than the brand. And I don’t mean to dismiss the appeal of that, but it has drawbacks too. Florida expects to compete for SEC championships and will fire you if you don’t. Put together a 10 year run at IU and he’ll get a statue and probably the stadium named after him. We have a gigantic basketball fanbase that would love to throw its support behind a football program too. We just haven’t historically had a reason to.

At least they talk to recruits. Woodson can’t even be bothered to do that.

Hopefully the “negotiations” consist of Scott telling Cignetti to name his salary and list all the other things he wants and then Cignetti putting the list together.

Thanks! What a strange situation. Aren’t Trey and Leal good friends? Maybe I’m just imaging that, but I thought they were roommates or something. If two players’ lockers need to be separated for team chemistry issues then that’s one thing, but it sounds like this was Woodson just wanting to flex his control. Mediocre Mike could not be more different from Cool, Calm, and Collected Cignetti. Cignetti doesn’t have time for petty drama. He’s too locked in. Woodson could learn a thing or two from our premiere program’s coach. His recruiting is going to tank even harder now that he canned one of his hardest working staff members.

Dolson offering him another job pretty much confirms that it wasn’t something serious from Adam. I saw a post speculating that it could be Dolson trying to save IU from a lawsuit, but (1) as a young white male, Howard doesn’t fall into any protected classes, and he presumably was an at-will employee, so any lawsuit would be an uphill battle and (2) you don’t sue your former employee as a young guy with a very promising career ahead of him, he’ll have no difficulty finding another job immediately. The most likely reason is the obvious one, imo. He did/said something that Woodson didn’t like and Woodson, being the petty, ultra sensitive guy that he is, fired Howard for it.

The IU fanbase is starving for a winner. Look at how the fanbase has embraced Cignetti. He came into historically the worst P4 program in the country. He didn’t b**** and moan and throw pot shots at the fans for not showing up to the games. He said “if you build it, they will come.” He built it immediately, and the rest of our home games have been sold out for weeks. Woodson came into one of the historically best P4 programs, has had sold out stands since he got here, yet he constantly throws pot shots at the fans for not being satisfied about 1 tournament win in 3 seasons. He treats everyone around him in the athletic department like they’re beneath him. He begged the Hysterics to get his daughter a job, and then he had a petty meeting with Eric to sever all ties because the Hysterics had a guest on their show who dared to question Woodson. Woody has consistently and repeatedly shown us who he is during his tenure as IU’s coach. For some reason beyond my understanding, he has a loyal army that constantly ignores the reality staring them in their faces.

I don’t care what happens this season, I just want it to end with us hiring a new coach. His ugly brand of basketball with his team full of mercenaries is not my cup of tea.

Woodson could wreck the Titanic and they’d be cheering him on as they sink. That’s basically what they did all last season.

Ohh yeah the recruits are all flocking to IU, they love him!

I don’t want us to go into next year relying on TJ. Hopefully they can bring someone in from the portal with a lot of experience for a competition during the summer. Landing Lewis would’ve been great for the optics, but idk how much he’ll impact a team next year as an undersized 18 year old reclass.

He’s not a “bad guy” in the Chris Beard “bad guy” sense, and no one has said otherwise. But the way he’s acted in the media/public eye, combined with the way he allegedly behaves behind closed doors, does not paint the picture of a “personable guy that cares deeply about IU, its fans, and its history.” Rather, it paints the picture of a guy who loves Mike Woodson along with only those people who love Mike Woodson as much as Mike Woodson loves Mike Woodson. Anyone else is beneath him and unworthy.

Those ticket prices are wild. I got a very solid ticket for the OSU game for under $200.