iubirdman

I think we do have a true experienced PG in Newkirk. His issue at Pitt was the style was a horrible fit for him, and did not let him do what he does best. He will be very goo din our system and was credited by many within the program for the improved defense once he was able to start practicing, and there were solid reviews of his leadership as well. Will he score like Yogi, probably not, but he will be a very solid replacement in allowing us to play the tempo we want, getting to the rim, and getting the shooters and bigs good looks

Thanks for the update, should know soon it sounds like

The last line is the important one here, we still have a spot open, have not heard anything new or a timeline for a Corsaro decision, but would have hated to see us not have one available for her had she wanted to come here. Looks like a quality signing for the program and gives us a little more perimeter size, could make a really good guard wing rotation with Buss, Cahill, McBride, Elbert, Deane, and hopefully Corsaro

At this point not sure what our odds are with either, but to included on lists that include the likes of Baylor, Louisville, UCLA, Tennessee, Texas, and Washington is big for the program. Be nice to be able to get Corsaro first, pair her with Cahill and Buss (with McBride off the bench) and we would have some really good perimeter scorers. I would think that would have to help with Evans the following year, especially if we have another successful season. Noce to be considered by a McDAA on the womens side this year and a top 10 national recruit in 2017

  OK I know everyone points to the Mizzou win as a great win last year, but in all honesty how good was Mizzou???  Yea, Yea I know they finished in the top 15 in the country, but in reality thier best win was Minnesota was't it?  They beat a 7-5 Fla and an 8-5 TAM group, but that was about it and neither of those teams were great.     If that Mizzou team were in the B12 still I doubt they would have been ranked, but not voter was going to keep a team out of the polls that was in the SEC title game, no matter how bad the east was.  The 2 really good teams they played they were outscored 76-13

Part of me thinks this may be what the first suspension was about as well.  Suspend for the opener due to suspicion/reports of something.  With the issues that were going on at the time, have to take a stand, even if proven false.  Returns as investigation is ongoing, investigation into whatever ends, presents the findings, and now the suspension is indefinite.  

Not sure you can add UK to the list as a rival at this point.  I mean what do we play them in?  Neither hoops team play, the FB team does not.  The only one that I am pretty sure we play them in is baseball, not sure that can be construed as a rivalry anymore.  I mean we can still hate them, but tough for me to consider them a rival when we basically never play them in anything anymore!   With that said, my 3 would be    PU Illinois MSU or OSU

If we ran a play we were going to score, SIU is not stupid, they wanted as much time as possible to score, they were going to put up no resistance, that is why we needed to take a knee

As for waiting a week, I wonder if having Bridges and Jones on campus over the weekend played in to the decision to wait?  Huge recruiting weekend with 2 major targets in town, doubt you want to give a kid the boot while future players are in town

Honestly this had to be done in my opinion, can only deal with stupidity for so long.  As it relates to basketball, honestly, I may be the only one who thinks this, but it may help.  I really think with Max's physicality and experience he will give us more than Emmit would have this year.  If you watch last year Holt played well when he was only going to get 2-3 minutes run at a time, more than that he was exposed.  I like what Max could bring and let's face it, the 4 will be TW and Hartman, so playing Max at the 5 I think makes us better than playing Holt there, esp if needed for extended minutes.

In school the best ones were Jeff Massy and Andre Owens.  Massey I believe was A10 player of the year when Xavier was still there and Owens was the point guard at Ok State when they went to the final four with Big Country.   In college played pick up games with Hart and Wilkerson when their times were up as a part of the program.  Chris Dittoe was really good to, All State kid who decided to play football and back up Trent Green.  Most fun kid we played with a junior high kid at the time but was always the 1st kids picked in the games at Bryan Park.  Pretty sure was the PG at BN when they won the state title in 98 but can not remember his name.  Was a great passer back in the day

Actually ashamed to say this but a few years ago playing trivia at B-Dubbs I had a 3000 point lead after 3 questions in retro TV trivia when the answers were He Haw, Sha Na Na and Lawrence Welk!  The days of being forced to watch them on Saturday nights when I was 6 finally paid off!  Of course in the college days we had the entire College Mall Theater singing the theme song to the Brady Bunch on the day the movie premiered!   As for favorites, hard to say, if going back to younger days, loved Night Court and Cheers and for game shows would have to go with Jokers Wild.  In the post JH years would have to go with Seinfeld and Jeopardy.

Look at our recent run of instate talent we have had commit (last 4 years)   Sr/would be Sr     Yogi--Arrested as a sop     Patterson--Never Qualified     JH--Drug issues and left (on own or asked to leave but should not be here)    Hanner--if you want to include, DUI, issue with DD and transferred   Jr/would be JR     Hartman--very pleasant surprise, by all accounts represents university in right way     DD--multiple drug and alcohol arrests   Soph/Would be soph   Lyles--committed and withdrew commitment 3 years later   JBJ--decommitted and then stayed, seems to be good representative of the university   There you go the last 8 kids from Indiana to commit to IU, and only 1 from the time of the initial commitment has been incident free and not bashed on here for a decommitment or off court issue.     If these are the kids that are supposed to get what it means to play for the Hoosiers we are in trouble.  Obviously Jordy and Cody got it, but I would rather have out of state kids like Vic, Moye, potentially Bryant, and others that get it and take advantage of their opportunities

Our top priority should be the best players that fit our needs and get what it meant to play at IU.  I could care less if they came from Indiana, neighboring states, Alaska or Germany.

The 2 kids who seemed to understand what being a Hoosier were over the last 15 years to me were Vic and AJ Moye.  One from the east coast and one from Georgia.

Like others have said, HMP said he passed a drug test on the day of the incident.  That could be very true, but they police showed up at 8 p.m. I doubt the test came after that, he probably did pass a test in the morning/afternoon of the incident.  With that test probably figured he had a while before the next one and never thought about being caught that night.  For those saying he may not have known there was anything in DD bag, get real.  The complaints were they could smell it from outside the room, you would think it could be easily smelled IN the room!

Not to be that guy, but i will be.  I know nothing about his HS coach, but I would be they placed more emphasis on D than IU did last year!  I agree that it will be good to get there ASAP to get in weight room, but not sure how much D he will learn this summer based on what we have seen the last 7 years

I think one of the previous posters had it correct, I think OG can develop into what most of us thought Hollowell could.  Has a plus skill set and seems to have a solid motor and has been getting better and better the last few years.  

I may be wrong, it was a quick glance, think UNC and MSU each have had one at least 4 of the last 5

TW was playing the 4 anyway.  We will play 3 of the 4 guards with Troy and TB.  I do think we will see some times with TW, CH, and TB together, but to think that with HMP or DD that we would start Troy at the 3 goes against everything we have seen out of CTC since day 1.  Our 4 will be a stretch 4, not a high post or low post 4, everyone wants to think that with a couple of bigs that will change, but it won't. The sooner you come to that realization the less stress you will have during the season

I think a lot of that has to do with overall rankings including all of the recruits, and the bottom of ours are bad, really bad.  Look at the last few years.  This years class I think we will get 3 contributors in time, prob only TB as a major one this year.  Last years class with RoJo and JBJ and if we just had Holt as the 3rd would have been a better class but then add JA, MH, and TP and the overall class suffers with kids that just were not B10 players, and we seem to do that every year.  

Just curious, how many schools have landed a MCDAA for 5 straight years?  If my quick look was correct it was IU, UK, Duke and Kansas.  That's it.  Not sure how that translates to shying away from great players, in fact I would argue that our top players have been as good as anyones, we just seem to have more holes because we seem to swing for the fences and miss a lot, leaving us having to fill in spots and depth with kids that are below legit Big Ten caliber players to fill out rosters (of course no need to always have to fill all the roster spots but that is a different argument!)

Just curious as to why FindTheEnd does not think Wisconsin plays real basketball?  I would love for our teams to play like they do, and I laughed for each of the last two years when all during the NCAA tourney the analysts were talking about how methodical they played and they were the highest scoring team in the tourney the last 2 years!  This was not anywhere close to the Wisconsin teams of a few years ago they would beat you 50-45.  I mean not sure why we would not want our team to play solid defense, not foul, make our free throws, not turn the ball over, and actually run something that resembles a real offense.  Yea not what we want here at all!!!!

Yep, they WERE the favorites before he got there and they still are.

Yea in the conference changes nothing, were the favorite, still are the favorite.  On a national level however they are a legit contender for the title as well.  Of course this is assuming he can stay out of trouble and this does not implode on them.  If he stays clean and just plays they may be preseason #1