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Lots of great info to come from this, I'd love if we could end up with Brooks in 2019. Schilling should camp out in that family's front yard. Also I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Phinisee will be Archie Miller's first commitment at IU, not including the 2017 guys to reaffirm their commitments. I think he really wants to come here.

True but while he is 6'10", both he and his coach said not to expect him to bang down low with the bigs in college. He's more of a perimeter player, probably tries to emulate Kevin Durant like every other skinny 6'8"+ kid. I'm hoping that can be fixed with some attitude re-adjustment and offseason workouts because I'd like to see him on our roster.

It sucks we'll never get to see OG really shine and reach his full potential here. I really wish we could have seen him come back and make the same sophomore-to-junior leap that Oladipo did, but it definitely makes more sense for him to go pro now. Elite programs put guys into the NBA draft on a consistent basis. This should only help with recruiting.

I think you can operate in the gray without being willing to dance with the devil, so to speak. If all we were to do is foster the promise of a marketing or endorsement deal after a player decides to turn pro, then that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. To me it's just business. It's a business deciding to invest in its future by promoting a product via the likeness of a player. As long as there's no money being exchanged, only a "handshake agreement", then that's different. What I absolutely don't want us to do, though, is to become a magnet for the countless "advisors" and "uncles" of top-rated kids looking to score deals through the kid's pick of a school as well. I don't want IU to become known as a place where one of those guys can cash in on a kid they simply see as their meal ticket.

Well when someone says hiring him is a leap into the dark side of recruiting, to me that suggests that he's done some shady things and has been penalized for it. I would reserve a phrase like that for Larry Brown, Kelvin Sampson, John Calipari, Eddie Sutton, etc. Maybe you meant that he operates in the gray.

That's a hell of a stretch to say that about Schilling. What has he been penalized for by the NCAA? From what I understand, he doesn't have a history of major or even minor transgressions with the NCAA, so why is hiring him considered "a leap into the dark side of basketball recruiting"?

Wow, Ed Schilling would round out a great bench of assistants. We won't completely lock up the state in recruiting, but we'll definitely get our fair share. I really hope this is true.

Yeah I suppose it's all relative. For some reason they think it's realistic to be in the Final 4 and compete for a national championship every year, so they can't be satisfied with winning the conference and getting to the Elite 8 pretty much every year, Final 4 at least every 3 or 4 years. I mean, most schools would kill for that, but they just won't allow themselves to be happy.

Judging by the UK boards, Cal has already started to wear out his welcome a little bit. I'm sure they like the success, but their fans are getting tired of so much turnover on the roster after every season. Now with word that Humphries is likely to pursue professional options instead of return to UK, they'll have a completely green team next season. I also saw that Sasha Jones or whatever his name is could supposedly transfer as well. He was a 5* last year.

The thing about Gelon is he still has a lot of basketball he could play at another school if he chose to go that route, unlike Priller. It would be up to Grant to decide whether he wants to ride the bench at Indiana and hope to make an impact as an upperclassman, or transfer to another school like Ball State or Western Carolina, sit out a year, and play 20-25 minutes a game for a few years. I wouldn't blame him for doing either. As a fan, I can sure as heck understand both choices.

I always thought it was overrated too. I know it's heresy to say, but it's 90% hype considering all the love it always gets. I'd probably take Aver's over it if I get to pick, and it's too bad Mad Mushroom closed because that was my go-to.

I think Smith is the most important recruit for 2017. Puts up great numbers at high level Illinois basketball, which is nice because he's a Midwest kid from B1G country. One thing we missed this past season was an athletic, slashing wing like Troy Williams, and I never thought I'd say how much we missed Troy Williams, but his baseline cuts to the basket were instant offense. He would be a great, great addition to our roster for 3-4 years. Oh, and Mad Mushroom was the best pizza in Bloomington from what I recall. Aver's a close second.

I really don't know if I believe that. Archie is the head coach, we live or die with him now. It seems like assistants are there to help with day-to-day team drills and recruit. Chris Hawkins would be a heck of a hire for the IU bench. I think someone in the B1G or nearby will give him a chance, and we should beat them to the punch. People love him, and he just won a state title. He's really well respected.

Just pisses me off how we have to pay out the @$$ for years because of phone calls, yet UNC and Roy can turn a blind eye to cheating and academic fraud for years and the NCAA does nothing. Don't let the good ole boy demeanor fool you. Roy Williams is as dirty as they come.

This game is unwatchable. These refs are pathetic.

OG should go at this point, as much as I hate to say. Keep in mind that Thomas Bryant didn't even go through the evaluation process last year, so he never got that feedback from scouts and coaches about what he needs to work on. He should declare this year, without hiring an agent. I can't see him being picked in the first round right now, this is a pretty deep draft. Ultimately he should come back for another year to improve upon what he needs to work on.

I didn't say I'd be right to do that though. I'm 31 now, and my adult self knows you shouldn't do things like that as a high school student teacher. All I'm saying is that if I was a student teacher at 22 years old, yeah, I'd probably have no problem chasing legal-age high school girls. It'd be a mistake, but not an unforgivable one that should haunt a guy 20 years later. You can try and claim you wouldn't do the same thing either, but it's one thing to actually be confronted with that scenario, and another to sit behind a keyboard and play the part of the good guy.

OK but a poster said he would have been 22 at the time. That's a huge detail that was left out of the earlier claim. Come on, let's be honest. If I was a student teacher at 22 years old, I'd probably be slaying all kinds of legal-age high school girls too as long as they weren't my students. That's not a big deal at all.

Actually that IS illegal. Even if a girl is 18, you can't have a sexual relationship with someone who you're in a position of authority over. Also, I don't believe that at all. If this was true, he would never be a Division 1 coach. He would fail every background check on him.

I'm so getting my hopes up on John Groce like I did with Billy Donovan, which probably means we'll get left at the altar all over again. He would be such a solid addition to the staff for hopefully a few years to lock up the Midwest. All eyes to the Akron job now, hopefully they take a chance on an up-and-comer rather than Groce.

A name like "Bruiser Flint" makes him sound like a bad guy in an Adam Sandler movie. He seems like a good candidate though.

Ah yeah I misread that, he is 2019. Good thing, Archie has plenty of time to get in on him. Also I'd really like for Miller to make a last-ditch effort at Darius Garland. Of course Phinisee should be just as high of a priority, but Garland would be a game-changer.

Do we have a shot with Keion Brooks (2018) out of Fort Wayne? He's a borderline 5* PF who's being recruited by most of the B1G, but I think Michigan State and PU are up there. It doesn't seem like Crean prioritized him.

I'd have to dig, it may have been Forde's article a few weeks ago. This is before even Crean was fired.

Wanting your name on the back of your jersey doesn't necessarily mean you're a selfish player. I actually don't think it means anything at all. I like the uniforms just the way they are, but wouldn't mind too much if they put names on the back.