AKHoosier

Forrester is still out there and will visit soon, but tbh I hope that doesn't work out. I'm partial to trust the staff here, but I just don't see how that recruitment makes sense, especially when I think of how good of a position we're in with 2019 bigs, and Forrester isn't close to as good as any of them. Regardless, happy to have wrapped up a point guard in this class.

I really hope we see news of Romeo visiting IU soon. When was the last time he's even been on campus? An unofficial would really give me reason to get all giddy about Langford.

Schilling and Flint have a connection to his AAU program, I think the director was a UMass player when they were there.

Less turnovers. That's what I expect.

Well good. I honestly haven't followed Watford's recruitment at all so I have no idea what our chances are here. We'll have to get him on campus during the season for me to feel like we're a serious contender. Although I'm sure he's been on campus a few times in his life.

You think Watford is more likely than Brooks? Everything I've seen and read makes it seem TJD and Brooks are the most likely commits for 2019, and I wouldn't be surprised if Brooks commits before the end of the upcoming basketball season.

This fan's hope is that we have 3 scholarships available for 2018 to use on Brooks, Trayce Jackson-Davis, and Hurt/Wiseman/Watford or possibly a guard.

2019 should be the class to load up on bigs with hopefully Brooks, Wiseman, Hurt, Jackson-Davis, and Watford to choose from to fill only 2 or 3 spots. Guards seem to be the bigger immediate priority for the rest of 2018, I don't know why we'd go after Forrester when we already have plenty of forwards on the roster and committed already.

Clifton Moore doesn't want to play down low at all though. He said so and his HS coach said so. It's not a given that he'll play down low "if needed". Plus if Smith plays the 4, that's pretty small in the B1G. I know it's a different coach and new system, but I still hate the idea of small ball lineups. That was a year from hell that I really don't want to repeat.

I'd like to fill out the class with Akinjo, Langford, and a big guy. I think we need a post player, but maybe we can fill that with a grad transfer after this coming season.

My bet is 6-8 months.

It just depends what you mean by "it" when you say we should be above it. From my limited knowledge of how recruiting and these things operate, there are various ways you can bend the rules or operate in the gray to get a kid to play for you. The promise of connections to secure a post-amateur shoe deal, maybe a little $$ on the side if you're a player, meetings with reps, things like that don't really bother me too much, because it just doesn't really hurt anyone. I'm not beholden to strictly obeying the NCAA's rules, because the NCAA is such a joke with selective enforcement of rules and seemingly always moving goalposts and standards. I just don't want IU to turn into a destination for all the kids' handlers and "uncles" looking to leach off of a kid. I don't want anyone like Lavar Ball or Tom Lyles at IU. I don't care if that makes me out of touch or whatever, but I'll deal with years of 22-11 seasons before I see IU turn into that type of a program.

MSU was the "team to beat" for a while with Jabari Parker too.

No it isn't. Abell was the year before in 2011 and was a late addition. Gary Harris was 2012 and would have been the oversign.

Pretty much, although he knew there was a spot for him if he wanted it. I still think Remy Abell prevented us from landing Gary Harris, he didn't want to be the oversign.

Remember, Gary Harris' girlfriend was a student at IU, lot of good she did us haha.

Ed Schilling is out in Ft. Wayne again to watch him today. I can't help but feel like we're the leader for him.

His highlight videos don't make him look all that great either. I'd rather have him than not have him due to the perception and momentum for recruiting, but he's not super-elite 5 star big. He's more Dakari Johnson than Jahlil Okafor/Anthony Davis.

Based on some interviews, it does sound like he really likes IU and the coaches here. He's also mentioned how he likes how close it is to home. Brooks and Jackson-Davis would be quite a haul of in-state bigs to land.

You think the #2 PG would be scared off by a 3 star who is on the fringe of the top 150? He's going to face competition for playing time anywhere he goes. Heck, Vanderbilt signed a 6'1" 4* PG in 2017, who would be a sophomore when Garland gets on campus. I'd say he probably has a better chance of beating out Green/Phinisee than he does that guy.

Hopefully the point guard dominoes start to fall pretty soon after the July evaluation period.

Awesome news. I'd also like to see us schedule teams from power conferences we wouldn't normally play, but are obvious RPI upgrades over Houston Baptist or Mississippi Valley State and probable wins for us. Teams like Stanford, Oregon State, Ole Miss, Washington, Tennessee, etc. Solid matchups that have more TV appeal than Austin Peay.

Not correct. I think he'd probably take him eventually but to say "Archie clearly wants him" is an overstatement. I mean we've offered two new point guards since the second part of the July evaluation period alone. He has yet to really play well in front of the staff. Archie is trying to see if we can do better.

I feel like Romeo and another guard are our best shots to fill out the class, most likely Phinisee or David Duke. The more his recruitment goes by, I just don't think we'll have much of a shot with Garland. The rumor is he's intrigued by staying home to play for Vandy, and with Duke and UK coming on strong, it'll be tough to keep up here.

So excited to have a South Bend kid playing at IU, I hope he does so well. I love getting kids from all over the state, not just Indy. Man, what a 24-hour span. And to think we still have room for 3 more. As long as one of them is Langford, I don't care who the other 2 are.