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I really don’t think Mgbako should be playing very many minutes. I mean he can’t dribble under pressure, he doesn’t rebound well or post up effectively, he doesn’t defend worth a dime and he isn’t a great passer. He really doesn’t do anything well as a basketball player except get hot from 3 occasionally. I don’t think he’s very good at basketball honestly. edit: oh and he shuffles his feet nearly every time he tries to catch and dribble/drive.

Kid isn’t a winner.

would be nice if Rice could handle the ball confidently like a guard would do.

I can’t wait until Mike Woodson is gone. Good riddance.

This team and really every Mike Woodson team is just so flakey. These guys just aren’t winners. It’s an obvious must win game at home against a team that you should beat. What does Indiana do? Exactly what you thought they’d do: be discombobulated, ineffective, chippy and tight. Just like every single Mike Woodson team has been.

Amazingly inept

Not a Myles rice fan- don’t care how many circus shot layups he makes- don’t want him handling the ball in crunch time. He carries the ball every possession and he can’t shoot. Would rather have Leal or Galloway with the ball.

I am so tired of this team. UCLA passes it to the wing and back to the top of the key for a wide open 3. This team is so dumb.

1.Stevens 2. Beard 3. May 4. Alford 5. Cronin

Agree. Would rather have Oates or Beard.

I’ll say this- Grant McCasland’s record as a basketball coach suggests that he’s a winner. Same as Josh Schertz. I know few of us want IU to take a flyer on a guy who hasn’t won much against the big boys but…if none of the home run guys are interested I’d hope we try for one of those guys.

Which one? Schertz Beard May McCollum

I'll tell them.

I'm not declaring next year's team is going to be a disaster nor am I declaring anything other than having a 4 with ball handling and shooting skills is better than having a 4 who can't dribble or shoot well. The fact that you're taking that and saying it is a stupid narrative is....stupid.

I never said it was a recipe for a ton of losses. In today's game, having two players on the floor who can't shoot or dribble in space confidently is not ideal. How is that anything other than logical? If you scroll up and read I said that a team could still win a lot of games with two bigs on the floor but that my point is it isn't ideal. Having two bigs on the floor but one of them can shoot and slash, well that's different now isn't it? My point isn't that tall players are bad. My point is having 2 players on the floor who aren't quick and also can't shoot or dribble to create is not ideal.

I just don't think 2 bigs who aren't shooters or playmakers off the dribble is ideal playing together. You are arguing that my position is totally without reason.

No, the difference was they had a 7'4" generational behemoth in the post. Put any other post player in the country on that team and they are no longer a top 10 team. Lots of teams shot better than us from 3pt land and none of them had a 7'4" monster on their team and none of them made the finals, except Uconn.

Oh are we talking about Rice and Carlyle now? I thought we were talking about this: "This idea that two "big" men, aka non-40% 3pt shooters, can't co-exist on the floor together is the single worst argument on this forum. Just so mind-numbingly dumb any and every time I hear somebody say it. " I'm super glad we got an upgrade in guards. I think it will help.

It's hyperbolic to say that wanting a quicker, more versatile roster is mind numbingly dumb.

Maybe improved guard options this year will make the difference.

It will be painful to watch 2 bigs on the floor when you know we have 3 guys (Mgbako, Tucker, Goode) who can legitimately spread the floor at the 4 spot and who are big enough to hang on defense. I'm hopeful for the upcoming season- we have a really nice roster....we shall see but like most on here, I really hope Woody can be flexible when it becomes apparent that 2 true bigs on the floor will get you beat by most top 25 teams.

I think 6 wins is a reasonable expectation.

this^

I hope Cupps stays.

we will have arguably one of the most solid backcourts in the country imo- Rice, Carlyle, Galloway one of the best frontcourt combos too- Malik, Ballo. on top of that we have some other nice pieces- Tucker, Mgbako, (Goode?) On paper this is a top 25 team easily. What JHS was able to do here I think Rice and Carlyle can produce something similar and with more depth and athleticism than that team...I would think a S16 appearance or E8 shouldn't be a surprise here if things break our way as they always need to to some degree for tourney success. Top 3 finish in B1G would be my expectation certainly with this roster talent.