Rayl

Watching their body language and interactions with each other yesterday led me to the conclusion that the locker room is broken. That's one I didn't need Crean to spell out for me.

He gotta go.

  Well, yeah, I'm with you in that Crean is not a great coach. Still, he's much much better than Davis.   Davis is one of the worst coaches in Division 1. Crean is a good coach. He's just not a top-tier coach.

I think any comparison of Crean and Davis is inherently silly. Yes, I've done it before, but then sometimes I like being silly.   Crean is a much better coach than Davis. You might not be able to prove it by looking at their records, but watching what actually happens in games makes it pretty obvious. Davis' idea of an offense was to watch the NBA, see a play he liked and throw it in the playbook for Bracey Wright. There was no flow or strategy to the offense. His teams were soft as soft can be. Players never improved under him. They were what they were the moment they stepped on campus. DJ White is the perfect example of this. Davis had him playing as a finesse player in the high post like Jeffrees played. It wasn't until Sampson was hired that DJ became a dominating force.   When people say that Crean is no better than Davis it detracts from their point that Crean is not a great coach.

This has to be some kind of parody account. There's no way anyone rational could think they know more about the game because they just got out of high school basketball let alone have the arrogance to actually post that.

  Actually, they do. I'm not saying they are right, but Crean's rep amongst other fanbases is akin to a creepy uncle.

  Does the guy who gave Peter Jurkin a scholarship deserve any blame for misjudging him?   Funny you should mention Vic not lighting the world on fire his freshman season. Go back and look at the numbers. I'd take Vic's freshman year over Hollowell, Robinson, Williams, Sheehey, Davis, Etherington and Gordon this season.   But, if you are expecting Tom Crean to turn the current crop into a bunch of Victor Oladipo's, prepare to be disappointed.

  Wait what? The sophomores were a top 10 recruiting class with three guys in the top 100. The freshmen were also a top 10 recruting class with four guys in the top 100.   Everyone who follows recruting closely certainly though Crean was bring a lot of talent in. Were they all wrong? If so, how much of that is on Crean for misjudging the level of talent he was bringing in?   I'm not exactly sure what you are saying. I think we have plenty of talent. Developing them, getting them ready to contribute at a high level right away, and figuring out how to use the talent to the best of its abilities seem like much bigger issues to me.

  How patient do we need to be? How many years do we wait to fire Crean before we aren't firing coaches left and right?   At the conclusion of this season, Tom Crean will have coached more games and as many years at Indiana as any coach who is not in the Hall of Fame. We've been just as patient with Crean as we were with Lou Watson and Mike Davis. They both won conference chanmpionships too.   Now, obviously, Dean, McCracken and Knight did not enter the Hall of Fame in six years. (Although, they were all more successful than Crean in their first six years.)   The question is does anyone think Tom Crean will be in the Hall of Fame someday? I think most college basketball fans not affiliated with IU would find that laughable, but perhaps some IU fans still think it's possible. If it is a realistic possibility, then OK, be more patient.   However, if we have already concluded that Tom Crean is not going to be a Hall of Fame coach, then what are we waiting for? I think six years is enough to evaluate his overall coaching ability. I find him lacking in that regard. Our history suggests that we have been as patient with him as it is reasonable to expect. We might have to wait for financial reasons, but for basketball reasons the sooner we replace Crean, the sooner we have a chance to find a coach who is up to the standards set by our former great coaches.

Wow. So this is where people went to. Sign me up on the fire Tom Crean train. Sure, he might deserve more time based on last year, but I don't see things improving to the point where we are always a contender. No reason to prolong the misery. Get rid of him and try the next guy.