BGleas

It's pretty amazing that IU has gone 5 full recruiting cycles ('13-'17) without recruiting a point guard.

I would tier it something like... Tier 1A: Stevens Teir 1B: Donovan Tier 2: Bennett, Marshall Tier 3: Miller Tier 4: Mack, Holtman, White, etc.

They also showed that graphic highlighting our offense/defense with OG vs. without, never once mentioning that two-thirds of the games OG played in were completely meaningless against sub-300 teams. Im im not saying OG isn't really good and a significant loss, but those stats they showed were stupid and completely lacked context.

Haha, don't give me too much credit, the kid still got off a great look. The other crazy thing about that play is that our coach spent the entire timeout before the play telling #4 not go go for the steal on the inbounds pass and to just keep the ball in front (there was only 4 seconds left and we were up 1), and what did he do? He went for the steal which allowed the other team to get all the way down court and get a great shot off.

We had one player get suspended a game for throwing a punch, nothing happened to our coach. As you can probably tell he was kind of old (was his 29th or 30th season and he retired at the end of the season) so he was sort of the "Dean" of coaches in the conference, so we all assumed he negotiated his way out of a suspension by having one of our bench guys take a game for the punch.

The funny part (other than the quick hands comment) was the next day at practice we were all waiting in the film room on pins and needles for how he was going to address the situation. We didn't know if he'd be suspended, if some of us were going to be suspended (despite what the TV guys said, there were punches thrown). He walks in and paces back and forth for about 20 seconds, then just looks up and says "fellas, the only thing I have to say about last night is, I should have taken the charge". Everyone just died laughing.

I'm #22 in white. Thread over, drops mic...

Agree. Not saying we shouldn't have gone further than we did, but people have come to romanticize how good that team actually was. As you said, IU was a handful of really good teams that year, but we weren't head and shoulders better than everyone else. Remember, we barely beat Georgetown early in the year, and struggled to beat Georgia, along with losing to Butler in the non conference. Yes, we were certainly capable of winning a national title that year, and certainly fell apart down the stretch and should have gone further. But, IU was also a talented team with almost no depth, and and no size in the backcourt. A really good team capable of winning it all, but also a team with flaws that could be taken advantage of.

Take a step back for a second guys. Did you expect him not be excited over winning a 3-OT thriller of a game? I'm not saying I want him as the coach or anything, but it was a 3-OT, exciting game, of course it's memorable when you're involved in it.

I kind of agree and disagree. While I think Hartman would have been a valuable piece to this team, that's an injury I don't want to hear about. We lost him early enough to adjust, and we have/had enough talent to overcome, and no reason that should be brought up in Jan/Feb. But, when you lose Hartman, OG and. JBJ that's significant and I wouldn't expect too many coaches to overcome that. That's three of your top 7, tough to overcome that. But Crean lost this team long before OG and JBJ were out. As mentioned, I also don't want to hear in January about some guy pulling a hammy last June, or a guy rolled an ankle in September. It's February, that's an excuse.

Another thing that bothers me along these lines is Crean still talking about the guys that were nursing injuries last summer. He still talks about that. I mean, if it's February and you've been a full, 100% practice and game participant since September, can we stop blaming poor play on nagging injuries from 8-9 months ago?

Which is shocking for anyone that watched the 13-14 and 14-15 IU teams.

I really think Bennett might be that guy. As Brass Cannon said, throw a dump truck of money at him and he may forget whatever the issue was with his sister.

Not just because of today, but I'm starting to think we shouldn't just dismiss Bennett because of whatever might have happened with his sister. It was a different admin then, and he may be the most qualified, realistic guy in college right now. I'll always say Stevens is the first call, but Bennett might be next. The right amount of money can change people's minds.

It just stinks that two of the coaches that seem like they're tailor-made for IU (Stevens and Bennett) and would almost certainly get IU back to truly elite, will probably never pan out.

That would actually be an amazing fit for him.

I hate when in a blowout the announcers do the whole "look at Coach, their down 30 but he's still coaching, still teaching."

I have to apologize to ESPN for all my ranting about them sticking with the Xavier-Cincy game after ours had started. They clearly knew what was up.

Hilarious, Calhoun keeps talking about "chipping" away at the lead.

While not at the top of my list (Stevens obviously), having read that Archie has been an assistant in three different Power 5 conferences, I'm comfortable with him now. Let's get it done.

We'll float between down 18 and 12 until about 3-4 minutes left in the game. At that point Crean will fake like he's all intense and I to it, and we'll go to a full court press 10 minutes too late. We'll cut it to 9 once and then foul our way to a 12-14 point loss, and Crean can act like the guys fought hard at the end.

Awesome, Newkirk. Completely turn your head to the ball. JBJ's defense is rubbing off on him.

More like, see you at the next home game.

Agree. Green came in and was put in a terrible position on that shot clock violation and Crean immediately yanks him and rips into him. Jones comes in and throws a ridiculous pass, no D and misses a bad 3 and nothing.

Sorry for flooding the thread, but now they just called a foul with 0.2 seconds. I hate ESPN.