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Absolutely zero "inside" information, but my personal opinion is that Wyc is trying to figure out not selling. While Wyc is certainly very wealthy, his father was the large bankroll for him buying the majority stake, and his father was the big voice pushing the sale. Wyc doesn't want to sell the team, from what I understand.
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I could be completely wrong, but my understanding of that was IU asked Buckner to attend an event which would have caused him to not be able to take the Pacers team plane to a road game, which is why IU paid for the travel. By no means trying to defend Buckner, I hope he comes to an IU game and gets boo'd out of the building.
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Because Goodman is in the IU bubble to a certain extent with his daughter being a student in the Cuban Media Center, etc. Goodman crosses all the world's on this (college basketball, IU, NBA, Boston). He had some, "here we go again" tweets with the Stevens stuff right when the Woodson announcement was made because he sees the IU fan accounts, so he went and squashed it quickly.
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The other piece here, and i know you're not buying the smokescreen stuff, just bringing up hypotheticals, but there was no reason for Brad Stevens to put out a smokescreen. Why would he even do that? Nobody is even talking about Stevens coming to IU except for the IU fan bubble. This isn't even a blip on the Boston media radar. It's not a blip with the Celtics fan accounts on Twitter. It's not a blip on the NBA's media radar. IU media brings it up here and there, but mostly only to squash it. There was no reason for Stevens to put out a smokescreen. Boston media was not asking him about this.
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I'll just slide in as President of Bball Ops for the Celtics after Stevens takes the IU job.
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My opinion on your question is because I don't think any other reporters think it's necessary. Outside of diehard IU fans, nobody else really thinks Stevens to IU is a serious thing.
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I have no clue. I could see a meeting that the AD attends once a semester or something, but weekly or bi-weekly and to discuss things like coaching hires? That's absolutely ridiculous. I was on my colleges athlete board (D2 - nowhere near IU's level obviously) and i don't remember ever meeting with our AD, maybe once at the beginning of the year, but weekly or bi-weekly? That's crazy.
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Appreciate the context. Dolson having to meet with an athlete board and actually give them insight into the hiring process is a glaring example of the incompetence of IU basketball the last 25 years. What an utter waste of Scott Dolson's time right now.
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This isn't meant to discredit you. Just sharing my reaction. I would just be very surprised if Scott Dolson told a bunch of AAU coaches on a call who he was hiring, or if he told an athlete board. There's no way he's talking to people like that about the search. If he is, then it's an indicator that's he not really in charge of this, which I think we all agree he is.
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I thought about this and the smokescreen theory. If it is, in fact, a smokescreen, maybe Goodman was asked to put it out there in exchange for being the one that will be the first to be given the official news so he can break it first. Probably not, but it got me thinking.. Again, just my opinion based on my experience working in PR for an NBA team, but my experience is that fans massively overrate this idea of smokescreens. I've been a part of GM's being hired, coaches being hired/fired, stars being traded, etc., and while it's been a long time that I worked there and the landscape has changed, ive never been a part of a conversation about sending out smokescreens or getting false information to reporters to get them off the scent, etc. I'm not saying it never happens, but not nearly to level fans think.
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You're welcome. Just my opinion, but i think everyone is really over-thinking this.
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Goodman is a Boston-based reporter that covered the Celtics for years and also has a direct line to the college basketball community. Goodman makes perfect sense for this.
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Again not trying to ruin the fun or be a wet blanket, i've purposely not posted the last few days as to not ruin the fun, but Goodman is connected in both college basketball and in Boston. Boston is, or at least was (he probably still lives there, just not 100% sure), his home base. When I worked for the Celtics he was with the AP and covered nearly every home game. I'm not saying he spoke directly to Stevens necessarily, but he is connected in Boston.
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His VP of Basketball Ops (assuming thats who you meant with GM?) and isn't really a Basketball guy. He's brilliant, I used to share a cubicle with him (hes not who i spoke to in 2021), but he's more a statistics genius and cap guy. Again the guy is brilliant, but not sure they have plans for him to run the entire operation.
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Appreciate your post, and it's giving me a chance to maybe clear some things up. I don't know Brad Stevens or anyone in his family. I never worked for or with Brad Stevens. I left the Celtics before Stevens got there, but many of the same people still work there and I have an understanding of how the team, ownership and operations work, etc.. I wasn't in basketball ops, but was in a role on the business side as close to basketball ops as you can be without being in it. I spoke to a high-ranking Celtics person who is an NBA institution behind the scenes. I visited him shortly after Woodson was hired. I asked him if he thought Stevens would ever coach in college again, and it was an emphatic, laughing "No". He gave some reasons and the "no" was emphatic. There is more to it, but not going into all of the details. For those that would reply, "well, Stevens wouldn't tell him if he was considering IU.", his "no" wasn't because he asked Stevens directly, you're not going to do that in that situation, it's because he has spent the better part of 10+ years working directly with him, working with Celtics ownership and executives, etc., etc. My person is an extremely trusted person in the NBA. With that said, people change, times change and circumstances change. Based on what I know, I'd be shocked if Stevens coaches in college in the near future, but there are also things like the ownership situation that are different this time around. I'll just be shocked if it happens.
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That Brad Stevens was ever close to becoming the IU coach last time. I beleive Dolson reached out, he had too, but it was never happening. I also don't believe Stevens used IU to get his President of Basketball Ops role. Ainge was always leaving at the end of the season, and Stevens had been earmarked to move to the front office. I was surprised he left the sideline all together, thought it would be more in a Popovich role, but the wheels of Stevens becoming head of bball ops were in play before the IU job opened.
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Disagree on the first part.
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Just going on record for me personally since we're in a new search, I don't believe much of that happened last time. It wasn't close, he was never coming last time.
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Not to be a wet blanket on all of the Stevens stuff again, but the Celtics and their personnel always fly out of Hanscom Airforce Base. Rarely, if ever, out of Logan.
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With IU's NIL war chest and the transfer portal, this is the first time where I don't think we need a home run hire. We don't need to win the press conference for recruiting and status. We need a coach that can build culture, identify the right players, is a tireless worker and knows his X's and O's. For the first time, we just need a basketball coach, someone that lives and breaths the game. If IU can find that in a "home run hire" then great, but winning the press conference isn't a requirement this time IMO. We just need a basketball coach that wins games.
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They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
BGleas replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I think he does. Those things wouldnt be an issue in my mind at all. The guy is a student of the game, as smart a basketball person as you can find, etc., etc. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
BGleas replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I've missed about 100 pages, so sorry if this has already been debated to death, but nothing has really changed in terms of my stance on Stevens. I think it's an extreme long shot at best. My info on Stevens is 4 years old, and people of course change, time changes things and circumstances change, but like I said I would be stunned if Stevens coaches in college again. It was not close last time. The one caveat I would grant people that think it's possible this time is the Celtics ownership situation. I don't know where that stands. If Wyc ends up not selling or if Steve Pagliuca figures out how to purchase managing ownership then I think Stevens for sure stays, if it's someone else then who knows? Of course, the IU job will most likely be filled before the Celtics ownership situation is figured out. I will be stunned if Stevens is the IU coach. But, I also would have been stunned if you told me Luka was getting traded a week ago. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
BGleas replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Woah, dude, so good to see you here and to hear from you!! Hope all is well!! -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
BGleas replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
I find myself in most of these games rooting for the other teams. I get more excited when they make big plays, hit big 3's, etc., and i find myself hoping we miss shots. Partly because they other teams are more fun to watch and playing harder, and partly because I want our coach fired ASAP. -
They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread
BGleas replied to Banksyrules's topic in Indiana Men's Basketball
Feel terrible saying this, but I honestly don't even really care about this season. I'm so detached from this roster and coaching staff, all I care about is whatever gets us to a coaching search in March/April.
