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Good point to add to our list of how we are better. We lose with virtue. I like you BGleas, but I can cheer for this team of non athletic players who know their role. They remind me of Indiana teams of old.

It goes against so much but I am having a hard time not cheering for Purdue. They are such a well built team. Well coached. Maybe being a football school and national champion helps me become less worried if Purdue has a good Bball team. IU has seemingly gotten worse results despite a ton of money and 6 chances to hire the right guy after RMK. Criticism of Purdue, I understand it, but compared to our pathetic attempts to field a competitive team seems silly.

But it was a more enjoyable offense to watch than the other team right.

I thought they were only good because of Stirtz.

One of the girls from my daughter's HS team was a freshman this year on the CoC soccer team.

I admit that I have only watched Iowa play twice. Have heard a lot of criticism about their style of play. I enjoyed how they played today. They moved the ball, had more than one guy as a threat and built the team around a point guard that could create. Was the game today different or was this a bad style of play?

Is there any evidence that DD can develop talent at an above average level?

McCollum got a lot from rest of the roster though too. Some of those guys were not expected to do much but had some huge moments for them. Now is the time for Indiana to do something. Dolson has to get some $, top 5 level $, and DD plus the new GM cannot swing and miss again.

I really did not say we needed McCollum. It is a fair discussion to compare first year coaches and their seasons. A lot of talk about when we hired our assistants but we chose our HC very early and our HC made a series of decisions that led to a bad year.

Iowa playing well just makes our season all the more frustrating. We had our HC first and he swung for some fences (assistants) and missed while Iowa waiting and ended up with the right guy.

What does the mean “DD can coach”? I mean technically I won a rec league championship with a killer triangle and 2. The prior coaches at IU “can coach”. The question is can DD coach AND build a program that is a consistent top 10 team. Heck, there is no evidence that he can build a top 30 team. Now, there is also not enough evidence that he sucks and definitely cannot do it. But there does seem to be question about either coaching or motivating players as he himself said he was having trouble getting his team to play his offense even if he is a better than average coach, despite no evidence, he also has to be able to build a team Big time questions here Well, he has his staff in place and Dolson has admitted that the portal Kids are often locked up before the portal opens which suggests we are reaching out too (or throwing in the towel). So you have staff, resources, a GM and seemingly a willingness to let them make early contact if we end up with a subpar class and season there is a primary reason DD is not the guy. Let’s hope we get early success in the portal. Otherwise I say you turn to someone who can turn this around fast and may only have 4-5 years left but always has success. Cig and BP on the AARP program but collecting wins

I brought this up a several times on here as well and people seemed to laugh at the idea. “Just a freshman wall”…

Why do we think Carr is a great hire for a college program?

I really think we have a ways to go to be mediocre.

One other thing that bothered me about this roster was how many guys we brought on that were injured. Dorn missed a lot of time and the other 2 guys (not even worth looking them up) never got off “IR”. 2 international kids that are projects. This roster had no hope. I am always hopeful when it comes to IU but I am not optimistic we are on a good path.

Reading Dolsons comments about how we struggled to land top portal guys was because by the time we hired DD (one of the early coaching hires) most top targets had made decisions weeks and months ago. So, doesn’t that suggest we should now who we are getting for next year already?

You follow this a little closer than I but I appreciate your perspective. I tend to think Dolson either cuts bait (not likely unless by him sitting so close he realizes DD is not the guy) or realizes he needs to right this ship quickly. I don’t discard the GM suggesting it could take time to balance the roster but to do that at the expense of wins is not something I think Dolson is going to accept. So what do you do if you are Dolson? Dolson’s superpower has been fundraising and I see this as the only viable path here. We cannot go into next year with another 35th ranked team. I think he has to convince some donors to stay the course and/or increase our NIL such that for at least 1 year we are top 5.

I agree. In the last few years there is data that shows most guys that jump up a level struggle. I think you still get some but not most of your starters. Grabbing P6 guys that are starter quality is going to require an infusion of $. I expect we will have to over pay for some of the top guys next year and then hope our success follows and our new gm can also build depth.

I worry this may be the strategy. I heard Rabby or Goodman during the off-season talk about how less than 20% of kids who move up a level (mid major to p6) via the portal have success beyond being a role player. 87% had a decrease in peg, with 57% seeing a drop of more than 7ppg. There are some exceptions but it is hard to go get 8 kids from p6 schools who we can afford and who don’t bring some baggage. I like the cig philosophy of production over potential but the stats suggest that for college bball mid major kids see their production fall off when they portal up. I lwas highlighted in coverage of players like Florida’s Xaivian Lee (Princeton → SEC), who started slowly but later improved

The same people Dolson will need to talk to about NIL $ next year are basically the same ones who would pay the buyout. DDV likely gets more time but Dolson sits right next to coach and if he will have a good idea if DDV can get it done or not. I think the easier and cheaper path is to bump up NIL a lot and see if we can basically buy a sweet 16 level team for a few years. This takes pressure off and allows the focus and money to go to football. This might allow time for DDV to build IU into a really good but probably not great program. But if he thinks DDV may not be the guy, I would not be surprised to see a change. Only Dolson knows how strong the interest was from other coaches last year. Only Dolson knows What he hears from DDv as he is coaching.

Cant really think of anyone. He averaged almost 17 minutes a game and had pretty consistent minutes through the first 6 BT games. The last 10 that has dropped to 7 minutes. If you look at the non-con plus those 6 games he averaged over 22 minutes a game. You can give me recent examples of this since it happens all the time?

Beginning to doubt that Sisley is back next year. No info just a strange drop off for a guy who really shined early. In a blow out loss to PU he barely plays?

I keep seeing a need to update that press box but that does not add any revenue. If by update you mean tear it down, increase seating including suites and then have some new press box by default I agree. I wonder if the corporate sponsorships are increasing in a unexpectedly big way. Sure they are going to go up but when we had one, I could not give tickets away. Now, those tickets are in high demand and there are a lot more eyes on your adds so what we paid $250k/yr on in 2020 might be worth triple that if not more. I think there were around 20 other corporate sponsors back then and I would think that number has to be much higher now too.

Anyone remember who plan B was?

I am not sure this is true unless you also mean it is conditional on CDDs results. I do like that Dolson is well connected to all the big donors and I hope he sees that we need to over pay some while CDD gets established