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I almost did this as well. Personally I think Woody made a tactical recruiting mistake going after a select few highly ranked kids and over valuing our current guards. But he was closer to landing a stud class and I believe I read where he had more top 20 Kids visit than any recent coach. Had he hit on boogie and DQ with Liam things may look a lot differently. Unfortunately he missed and did not have a good back up plan besides the portal and then this year really raised a lot of concerns. But I bet we could find many of the posters in this thread enjoying where we thought we were when Trilly was posting hints about us landing the trio. Not only did he miss now it looks like he will have a lot of roster turnover and he will have a big rebuild. At his age, this does not seem plausible and I would agree with a change.

Let's look at Pearl or Drew vs May. Same number of FFs i believe so from that criteria, a good one, there is little difference. Except, Crean got to a FF too. As did Mike Davis, hmm. Ok well some would argue that Dusty built FAU from nothing. This is true and certainly noteworthy and helps build the case for him. But how do you know he did not just get lucky with a few recruits that elevated the team? The fact that none were top 100 kids is good but there have been examples of non top 100 kids outplaying their ranking. Can he build class after class to compete like the one he has now? Can he recruit at a P5 school? Top 25/50 player are different and can he excel with them? Sure thing candidates to me are able to have sustained success at the P5 level. Dusty has had a good record playing P5 teams but having to play in a P5 conference game after game is just different. His record against P5 gets him consideration for sure but not doing it on a regular basis leaves doubts. Pearl, and Drew have had some down years but generally once they get rolling they keep rolling. Class after class always in the top 20. Dusty is not in this category yet. Can we get a sure thing guy to come in here and leave where they have become the sure thing? Maybe not. If not, then that is how you get to the next tier. Would Dusty be better than a guy like Greg McDermott? Greg has had some sustained success but has not made the FF run and has not been in a P5. But he does show he can repeat year after year which is more than Dusty has. I would be fine with Dusty but he comes with some questions. A sure fire guy like Pearl has a lot less questions about the results he could produce on the court.

Back to the "locked up" idea. Let's say SD gets approvals needed to go after Pearl. What can he do to "lock him up"? Pearl cannot sign anything before his season is done and we have an official opening right? So would it just be a verbal commitment? If so, based on what happened with BS, then I wonder how to resolve the idea that we need to lock up the big fish guy (like Pearl) given we kind of got burned on this path last time.

I think you could be right. And to be fair, he had the biggest fish nearly hooked last time. Was the fish merely toying with him or genuinely interested, we may never fully know but most of us wanted the admin to go after a proven winner and SD did that in a big way last time. The problem IU has with searches is you often have different groups promoting different candidates. There has often been an Alford group for example. Perhaps it was because SD was new to his role last time but when he missed on BS it seems the next in line was another groups guy (Woody) instead of letting SD go find another candidate. I hope this time around, SD has full run of this process and can develop his own list of candidates (others can offer inputs) but in the end if he is able to choose the next coach, whether it is his #1 or his #4 I am optimistic he will find someone to put his stamp on the program.

Glad you mentioned it as I will try to watch later too. Not what you asked, but after listening to the BP podcast i posted yesterday, he was asked how long he would continue coaching and he said he did not see himself coaching in his 70s. So, since he turns 64 in March and would not coach into his 70s then we would have 5, maybe 6 years with him.

I think there were at least a couple reasons. 1) they shot well all around and that kept them in the game. Close game at home should always help. Making shots, especially 3s really help. 2) woody was far more energetic while coaching last night. Several times while the ball was in play he was a few steps out on the floor instructing. Teams feed off a coaches energy. At least once he was about 5’ out on the floor which I have not seen before.

Could have been this but unconfirmed

He will be great in Indiana. He might not be so well received in the Chicago Public League.

Tier 1 has to be guys that have won consistently (regular top 20) and have made deep NCCAT runs.

Could it be that he ratted them out, saw that it had little impact and said "well when in Rome..."

What cheating did he do? I know he lied to the NCAA about having a recruit at a cookout (seems minor, even the lying part). What were the others?

Found this podcast from last year with BP. Wins & Losses with Clay Travis: Clay Talks With Bruce Pearl on Apple Podcasts I am only about halfway through but first half has been great. He mentions how he was poor until the TN job and still shops the clearance racks because that is what he always did. Talks about moving from each of his programs and how he is always all in when at a school but when he feels it is time to move on, it is hard but he does what he thinks is best. Good listen.

Hey, this is what we do best. We used to be a great basketball program and we as fans loved knowing we were always going to be a contendor. Now, we excel in coaching search rumors and are probably one of the best programs in the county at this (the rumor talk not the actual hiring sadly). So don't get in the way of our calling, our passion to dream big. If we cannot hire well, doggonit we should still be able to dream the impossible dream without people trying to bring us down.

Hopefully BP is not this cycles, Billy Donovan or Brad Stevens. Be real BP.

Seriously? That is awesome!

I kind of wonder if Pearl decided that gray area was fine after the Deon Thomas incident where, if his side of the story is correct, Illinois offered DT $80k and a Chevy Blazer. BP recorded a call with DT where he seemingly acknowledged that offer but the NCAA only gave a slap on the wrist to Illinois (1991 post season ban). I was reading an article this morning about this and it had allegations about BP suggesting he was also cheating but those had seemingly no meat to them. Perhaps BP saw that he had a rival caught red handed and instead of them getting the hammer he got banished essentially from D1. Once he got back it could have been, "when in Rome, do as the Romans".

Well for those who don’t track all the back channel stuff like you and I, did we make any back, side or front channel connection with Pearl?

So under Woody, there are 12 staff. Looks like he kept 5 from Millers but that includes Cliff and Tim Garl. So he kept 3 from a coaching staff of 9. I think it is a good idea to keep 1 assistant from the prior staff if they can help keep top players. Walsh was a late add/keep and Steven Surface had been overseeing basketball operations so I don’t mind keeping someone like him to help with the transition.

he was on the staff of Miller AND the Pacers? I do not think that is correct. https://theathletic.com/4546018/2023/05/23/indiana-calbert-cheaney-basketball-staff/ or did you mean Walsh? If so yes he was. So that is 3 which does not seem like most but I could be wrong

Calbert was with the pacers. He also hired a couple of development guys. And Walsh was not an assistant under Miller.

He kept one assistant, one staff and the strength coach. Not sure that’s most.

If a younger guy, like May, had these results I think we might be more lenient because he is not nearing retirement.

Gallo overplayed their PG to take away the outside shot and the PG then backcut. Gallo recovered and forced a little turn around/reverse shot that the PG made look easy but was a clever cut and shot. I think he only scored 2 points in the second half and for awhile Gallo started applying pressure ful court. The full court/token pressure was when we made our run and seemed to speed them up a little and get them out of rhythm. So while that was effective, I am sure Gallo was a bit gassed and the backcut was the perfect play to run. After that basket there was a TO and Woody lit into Gallo. I thought Gallo's d was what helped get us back in the game and the chewing out seemed excessive but I understand you sometimes do that with leaders. I think it was shortly after this Gallo stopped guarding full court and the short lived rally ended. Not sure if related but I remember sayig to myself at that TO I hope Woody does not change things now that the game is close. That was the only change i noticed.

My daughter was recently in an auto accident which totaled the car and sent her to the hospital. Fortunately, she walked away with a fractured sternum, sprained ankle and several bruises so we are very thankful. She had an older car and it was totaled (value ~ $5000-$7000) and her current medical bills are around $10,000 before insurance. The other driver (Truck going east bound) was waiting to turn across oncoming traffic and as the light was changing to yellow he turned into this intersection. My daughter was traveling westbound into the intersection at about 45 mph and the cars collided. No witnesses to the accident came forward to shed any more light. The other driver claimed my daughter ran a red light she is convinced it was just turning yellow. I went to the intersection recently and watched the sequence and i could not see a scenario where the accident would have been her fault. IF she did run a red light, then the truck turning in front of her also ran the red light (both at fault at a minimum or maybe more him since he turned in front of on coming traffic). IF the light was yellow as she described it would clearly be the truck's fault. My insurance said it would likely go to arbitration since both parties are saying "not me". So my question is, would it be worth contacting an attorney for this? The costs on our side are not large. My daughter does have some fear now to drive so even adding that as pain and suffering I know this is not a big case for any attorney. But I have heard that insurance companies have sort of decided it is not worth the money to fight on small deals like this and will just agree to settle with a no-fault and move on. Any advice would be appreciated.