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Are the deep tourney runs when we went to the sweet sixteen or are you looking back to the FF with Calbert/Graham/Henderson and the championship game with Mike Davis?

Anyone else get tired of how when a team scores on us with three seconds in the first half Crean is more concerned with calling a TO and setting up some poor play for us to shoot? Last night was the most recent but it is almost like he watched Belichick let a team score late once and thinks it is cool to do. Not the first time I have noticed this either. Seems as if he is on the sidelines ready to call TO instead of being all in on making sure the D stops the other team.

Oh hey I was waiting for this defense to be used. Who did you compare us to last year, or the year before or the year before. See it is a pattern here while at those schools it is often either the exception or the motivator to change things. All of those teams can take occasional losses during the year because they often find ways to make runs in the tourney. Over Creans tenure he has made one run. Pattern.

The last two buckets by Crawford Rob was our defender. He may have been turning his man to the help that did not show but both times his man scored

and now a lot of time to sit around and talk to each other.

How so. We have turned this roster over so many times that the only constant is the coach. Not the players fault every time.

Fans will be here longer than the players who supposedly love him. What is this everything we would lose?

Someone will post soon and compare how a team like Wisconsin is struggling this year and suggest we are crazy to worry so early. As if our every year problem is somehow equal to a team like that who may have a one season issue.

No more ball movement?

I have been a Wilson critic but we win next year I would extend him. Maryland not s great team nor is PU but we find a way to be mid pack and go bowling and I am happy

So we are recruiting guys who are looking for a handout? Sour grapes

Is it cynical of me to believe that the two articles written this year by out of town press were invited in to do an articles like this. I was a Crean guy for a long time and am so tired of the talk and self promotion we do.

I agree as long as the roster turnover does not continue. IF those guys stay and develop things will be fine.

Do they not lock the picks at some point?

Too often we just assume the worst when you hear s kid has s handler. Some kids simply need someone else to enter their lives and help guide them.

Dang, have not had a chance to watch that one yet. Good to hear disregard my snarky post.

When was the last time we came out and just blew a team out of the game in the first 15 mins? Honestly liked our early start but then we lose focus.

Did you watch that game?

Guys we need to stay on topic. This is about DD not Crean. OK just kidding, win or lose in recruiting and Crean should be discussed though and this commitment was a very good get. Early and long recruitment paid off.

As others have said a coach like Howland who is on the rebound will take a little longer to bolt. I think that may be the primary argument though and a coach who is not likely to stay four years because of success is probably more enticing than a situation where the coach is not likely to stay because of the lack of success. That being said, I think IU should be his choice - I presented this because someone mentioned that there weren't good reasons for him to choose MSU over IU.

Let's say you were looking at two programs. Both out of state (so you did not grow up dreaming of playing for one of them). As you near your decision some of the negative recruiting about whether CTC will be at IU for your 2,3 or 4 years begins to really look realistic. Meanwhile your second choice is an upstart program that is bringing in a lot of talent with a coach that coached in 3 FFs. Sure he had some baggage too but he is hungry now to rebuild his rep and build a winner. So if we had 11k show up vs them having 3k but the pitch you get is that as you build this the 3k will grow every year there is an appeal Especially when the bigger more traditional school has much of its fan base questioning their coach.

Probably because we were out in front before the visit. We should have been out in front because he had visited us and had not visited them. After the MSU visit things may have changed.

I think Max's comments are based on a small sample of time so things could change and Crean may start the year loose then tighten things up. If however this is representative it would also explain why Creans teams have not ordinarily done well in the postseason.

End of third period at midfield we run the ball twice and are content to punt.

When Sudfeld and Roberson were young they showed much more promise than what we have seen with Zander. Not seeing that same promise with our younger guys right now