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Good perspective. It seems there have been 5 groups recruited by Crean. First group was just to fill spots. Certainly no issues here. Second group included VO, Will, Wat, Cody and Hulls. Big winner. The third group, the movement. Bust, these happen but we had such momentum and poof. The fourth group was Troy, Stan, Noah, Max, RoJo and James. Again, it seems to have some great talent but leadership and off court threaten their contributions. The last group are our freshman and I will wait on them. So my question for you Pap is - do you think Crean will find more groups like VOs group or more like the movement and the post movement? If he had 2 strong groups and one dud I would be more patient

Hey any idea why Dukes managers sprint to the locker rooms at halftime? Oddest thing I have ever seen

Yeah but maybe he takes what he can to motivate. I bet he carried that into the locker room, embellished and got his team focused on the second half. A half where they held us scoreless for the first 25% of the half

I expect us to win by 15 but will be disappointed if OG does not get a ton a time. Too often Crean pounds the pansies and keeps the regulars in for most of the game

Ray. Brad will come, Ray. Brad and his wife will come. They'll come to IU for reasons they can't even fathom. They'll turn up your driveway not knowing for sure why they're doing it. They'll arrive at your door as innocent as children, longing for the past. "Of course, we won't mind if you look around", you'll say, "Just sign this contract if you want to stay". They'll pass over the contract without even thinking about it: for it is money they have and peace they lack. And they'll walk out to the bleachers; sit in shirtsleeves on a perfect afternoon. They'll find they have reserved seats somewhere along one of the baselines for the family, where they sat when they were children and cheered their heroes. And they'll watch the game and it'll be as if they dipped themselves in magic waters. The memories will be so thick they'll have to brush them away from their faces. The Stevens will come Ray. The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been Indiana Basketball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But IU has marked the time. This building, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds us of all that once was good and that could be again. Oh...Brad and family will come Ray. They will most definitely come.

Many have critiqued our players by saying they are more interested in being on ESPN (highlights). Well with all the discussion, they are all over ESPN but for giving up highlights

Well sometimes kids focus too much on being on ESPN.

Pretty good article "The End Is Near for Crean at Indiana" via http://TeamStre.am by Bleacher Report http://teamstre.am/1jAqaXK

Good article "The End Is Near for Crean at Indiana" via http://TeamStre.am by Bleacher Report http://teamstre.am/1jAqaXK

I would not say I felt sorry for the kids but I believe that Crean is not getting the most out of them nor pushing them to become all they can be. For that I get the empathy idea and place the majority of this on Crean.

Is she still following Crean on Twitter?

I don't see much from OG to think he will do much this year. Our next several games are against weak teams so now is the time to let OG try and find his groove. I will be sorely disappointed if we win these games by 15 or more points and OG does not have a ton of minutes

I think IU and Crean do a lot of work to make sure he is well liked in the industry. Hence the recent articles from national guys subtlety defending him but that tide is turning. Jay Williams has been beating the negative drum on IU (not completely directed at Crean but he has been included), DV last night really questioned our team repeatedly and in this article there are several national folks taking jabs now too. Sage, one year after being here for MM clearly questioning the makeup and leadership of this program. Heck even Seth Davis got a little negative The tide is turning. I really wonder what the boosters that attended the game last night thought. Are they happy just to be able to travel with the team or do they expect higher results? Do they think it is all on the players (again), bad luck due to not having the roster Crean thought he would (again) or do they like many of us see this falling mostly on Crean?

for some yeah that applies but the Z double is just bad coaching. Bad preparation. Z gave great effort on that play but you cannot outrun a pass and he should have never left his man to double When this becomes the theme every year I just cannot pin much on players. One man identified and recruited these guys to come play here. Season after season one guy has kids that do not defend well. Crean is the guy. If this were a one year deal then fine but with so many different kids the problem is the same.

I did notice he wore a subtle Duke shade of blue UM sweater too

Why does Duke have their managers sprint across the court like that. I noticed for the first time during our game and kept thinking they were white polo wearing Rudys. What message are they trying to send or what emotion are they trying to instill.

I know family ties sometimes blind us but Harbaugh did not let the fact that he did not have his guys keep them from making a lot of noise in football this year. I wonder what he was thinking while watching that game last night.

I noticed these things too. We seem to want our guys to always double the opponent. Z's man passed to a guy who had his back to basket 20 feet away and z follows the pass and doubles the guy. The guy simply passed back to Z's man who hits the three. Z should never have left to double anyone. We also have too many times when our better defenders are trying to turn their man with the ball away from the lane. That works but the overplay here leads to an easy blow by and no one rotates over to cut off the drive. Watch the end of the Wake game. They did this 3 times, against RoJo, down the stretch. Then again against UNLV. The defensive preparedness is s big part of the problem coupled with others giving poor effort.

This has been my point all along. The pressure is extremely high right now. IU knows it which is why they took the Crean speech off the scoreboard our last game. Glass will probably say something that sounds like support or we lose some more games and the pressure builds.

Crean. On one occasion Z's man passes the ball to Bryant's man who is standing with his back to the basket in the three point line. NZ immediately runs to cover that man too and leaves his man wide open. That is preparation and what he was coached to do.

I agree. Maybe if one year but because it repeats every year post Zeller and VO then you can't blame the players

Why have Z double a guy with his back to the basket and leave a shooter open. Sorry that is coaching and preparation

I got an email from IU on the possible bowls and looked at the Nashville one only. They listed ticket prices at $85 and I assume those are preferred ticket pricing but then looked at the bowl page and they had tickets as low as $25. Anyone know what the difference is?

Also we lost 4 out of our last nine games and nearly lost in the second round of the NCAA tourney Great team through the game at East Lansing then a really poor finish to the season.

Ah, others not I, were right. I personally would have preferred to win 85 to 25 to show a commitment to focusing on defense but I suppose we are what we are.