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Agree. If we don't bounce back in a big way this year, which will be difficult given our schedule, then Glass needs to consider making that change this year. Another year of this, heck even a poor finish down the stretch, and the crowd will turn fully against him. We saw some of this a couple of years ago and when the fans don't think their opinion is being considered the boos will become louder. Crean does not deserve that which makes me think that we make a change this year - unless we make a big run down the stretch.

Good point. I know many thought last years turn around was a sign of good things to come. This years struggles show that was not the case. I also am not that dependent on guys who do not watch our games regularly to make a decision on whether Crean is the right coach. These guys may know basketball but they are not there watching us repeat the same mistakes game after game. They are not watching us turn the ball over at such a high rate. They look at last nights win and think "wow gritty performance without JBj, OG and Colin" but they don't look at PSUs roster to see they have little to fear. They don't endure a close game loss and think back to the numerous times that Crean pulled our hottest player because it was his preplanned time to come out. They don't pay close enough attention to see there is a pattern and even though we may reach a top 5 ranking during the season we cannot finish past the sweet sixteen. Cuban does not have the time or interest to follow us that closely. I doubt he sees more than a couple of games a year. Someone will probably suggest Glass watches closely and has not made a change. If we do not advance past the sweet sixteen before he extends Crean then I will change my mind on him (Glass). I think he had one realistic time to make a change and I think he was very close (year before Bryant).

That is because I did not make my point very well. Our shorthandedness was not really an issue against PSU. They played fewer guys than we did and of the 9 guys who played I think 4 were freshman and these 4 played a lot of minutes.

PSU played fewer guys than us and have three or four key freshman.

We actually played very good free throw defense. They were like 17 of 30.

Guess we are keeping the Purdue game off the air. That is good

Especially at this point in the year. This is often when people start saying freshman are not freshman anymore based on the amount of time and number of games played.

I misremembered

That was a nice bright spot. Seeing how beat up he was after we escaped with a win last year I was glad for him tonight. I like his game as well.

Would it be bad form for us fans to plan a nice big going away party now for Crean? You know kind of a "thanks for cleaning this mess up and good luck at ___________" We could rent billboards and airplanes with banners and maybe do some commercials. Make it a classy thing where we just assume he will be gone and we wanted to make sure we had time to say thanks first.

So I know about McIntosh but we're any of the Northwestern players a moderate-high level recruit

Or maybe to say definitively no so he can move on to plan B.

This is a good point. If we are thinking NBA guy the timing for those will make this unlikely. Sure they could talk behind the scenes but that is a very long gap.

Later in the thread it said it happened in the second half. If it happened in the first half did he play in the second half

One of the reasons why even roster spots at the end of the bench are important.

Wow. That is terrible for him.

I get why folks might think he accepts mediocre basketball but I don't think we can draw that conclusion yet. I honestly thought Crean had turned a corner last year after JBj got hurt. Seemed he changed his recruiting to some extent, changed to a more comfortable game attire and I thought he also found a way to get the guys to play D. I think in retrospect he just rode the back of a more determined Yogi. There were good reasons to make a change right before Bryant committed but a change wasn't made. That was really the best time to make a change AND yet be able to say Crean had had plenty of time to turn this around. I highly doubt Glass went through without doubts himself and even though he did not pull the trigger I think the promise of Bryant is a understandable reason for deciding not to make a change then. The right decision? Probably not but that alone does not prove Glass accepts mediocre results. Combine that with the donations for the Assembly Hall renovation and the Cuban technology money and the pause makes some sense. Now, if we extend Crean without a final four run then I accept the premise.

Fair point

Alex Bozich who always seemed a Crean apologist seems to also have moved to at least a neutral position on Crean. The tide is turning. Not surprising on htd or HH, wonder if StLouis Something or other ever changed his mind.

Who was that mod - trying to remember

So is the "they" coaches or people in the administration or are they hard to differentiate

Someone call Archie and let him know tonight is an interview of sorts. If he loses he is out of consideration. I will probably only get to watch them once this year so he needs to be impressive

You make a call to Stevens not because we think IU is better than the Celtics or that Bloomington has more to do than Boston. For many those things do not compare. You call Stevens because you hope that the relationship between college coach and kid is deferent than in the NBA. You hope that the fact that Stevens sent Andrew Smith a skid of Gatorade when he was in the hospital fighting for his life shows how valuable that is to him. You call Stevens because you think he values family more than success. I travelled to the final four Several years ago with someone who had been with Stevens the day before. They told me he was anxious about moving his family to Boston from the Midwest. You hope that maybe returning home has value. You obviously call because you think he can coach but you don't let the fact that he is in Boston dissuade you because you hope Indiana can provide him things that are important to Stevens the man. And he can coach pretty well

Why do you think that?

Heard Mike Decourcy on the radio on way home. They were talking about Pitt and how they thought Dixon was not good enough even though he went to the NCAA tournament something like 10 out of 13 yrs. he said that sounds pretty good about now especially for Pittsburgh. They have no real history and no recruiting base. He then went on though to say that at Pittsburgh that is good enough but at places like Indiana, going to the tournament 10 out of 13 years and no final fours is would probably not be considered good enough. Not with the history and recruiting base Indiana has. Most of the discussion was on schools like Pitt and Texas and whether their coaching changes were good ideas. The Indiana comment was just something he mentioned off hand but for those who think Indiana fans are delusional about high expectations and our capabilities - Decourcy sees it the same way.