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Do you mean wanting Bennett is way out there or that there is some story about him out there.

I sent you a PM a moment ago.

Anyone have the link to that top 50 coaches article? Might be others in there we have overlooked

Great point. Also be prepared for the really young defense yet we also have 3 jr guards. I know 2 have started since freshman here and Josh played a lot at Pitt. We are not really young

Thanks - hard to tell from TV

I actually never really mentioned rankings in my comment. I suggested that TC was not a great recruiter and pointed to unbalanced classes and rosters and the diamonds in the rough stuff only. Izzo is successful because he knows what he wants and recruits it. Creans rankings may be on par with MSU but Crean seems to struggle more with how to build a team out of that talent. Tom Crean is not a great recruiter.

Yeah you may be right with MSU but izzo does not have to be a great recruiter to win.

After the rebuild his recruiting has been good but not great considering he is at Indiana. Unbalanced classes and unbalanced rosters have really hurt his teams. Considering he is at Indiana has he recruited better than his peers (Duke, UNC, Louisville, MSU, etc...)? Can he ID some diamonds in the rough? Sure but a lot of times we end up with just the rough. If you want to say he is great at finding diamonds in the rough I would argue less, but a great recruiter he is not.

I think that shows how bad things are. Someone chooses Alaska over covering Indiana Basketball

Any thought on Dana Altman?

I suspect Duke will have a hard time not having a Dukie take over when K retires.

I love Dickie V but put no stock in who he thinks is a great coach because to him, they all are

So if you get down past your top tier guys and are choosing between Marshall and a guy like Archie Miller the likelihood for a championship under Archie is just as unknown. Not saying I prefer one over the other but if cannot lure one of the big fish we may be fishing in a pond with some uncertainties. Do you go with an up and comer who has not been on the big stage long or do you go with a guy that will get you into the tournament just about every year. Arguments can be made for both.

When considering Marshall's post season record you start first with a consistent winner during the season. He regularly gets his team to the postseason. That is probably the biggest difference between him and Crean. I think he is an obvious upgrade from a consistency basis. Even Creans time at Marquette was inconsistent whereas Marshall has been the opposite

I would be interested to know if we go to the weave quickly or only if we don't have a clear quick transition bucket. To me it seems we look for the quickie and if that is not there then it seems we get into the weave. I agree with you though about the wasted time in that thing. Used to get so mad that we waste quick bigs like Cody who could have used that time to make the D try to keep him from getting open in the post.

Personally I thought it was interesting post with some good insight. I doubt that the 8-10 seconds of D was the entire game plan but was one of those key points to focus on. Have you ever seen our teams transition D after we just hit a shot? So many times we immediately give up a quick shot. If you can get your team convinced that if the guard like crazy for 8-10 seconds then they likely don't let us play fast and minimize the quick easy baskets. I also have to admit when we consider our players we do place a premium on the athlete vs the fundamentally sound kid. So maybe hearing it from an opponent would also be music Timmy ears and I might tend to be a little biased towards my thinking. Still though, it was interesting info from Old Friend and it definitely seems your first response to him mdn led to his response.

Any chance he looks at playing baseball and basketball?

Sounded good for them but Groce is on a very hot seat in Illinois

My question - why would anyone watch that.

No but a couple years back when we hit a spell like this and the seat got hot a couple articles came out that seemed to be written by Crean himself. Just wondering

Who are the reporters that usually get info straight from IU? Is Goodman on that list?

Sounds right. I would have argued that Crean needs to be extended or relieved around 2 -3 years out. That corresponds to Millers timing. If this team and next year early on they shown some signs of life then Glass could always buy a year and extend him for 1 year initially. I am not necc on board with that but we are definitely in that window. I had been thinking there were only two choices - extend or relieve but as with Miller in 2015 Glass could simply defer for a year. I am not suggesting that Miller was only extended 1 year because of doubt, as with Crean, but simply that a 1 year extension could also be in play here.

So in 2015 his contract would have expired in 2018-19 but was extended 1 year so the expiration would have been 2019-2020. So when he was three years out it looks like contract talks started and then perhaps they pushed things out 1 more year. You could argue that the Pitt thing accelerated it. Now he is 2 years out and he was extended. How far out does coach Creans contract go?

Any idea when his previous contract was set to expire? Curious as to how far out from expiration some coaches are extended

So if we have the number 4 class but no 5* kids is the soccer rankings different than Bball and football recruit rankings