JSHoosier

I think we already figured that one out.

IU did that themselves when they hired Woodson.

UK is serious. IU is letting pure nepotism be the deciding factor.

They know how to make fire, it's needed for the still.

Give UK our last 25 years and those fans would burn the campus to the ground. Short of a repeat of this year, or worse, Woodson will get more than one more year. They won't have the black eye of firing a program legend, no matter how lousy he is as a coach.

Woodson should be fired, he created this mess. He never even should've been considered much less hired, but he's safe because IU is more concerned with optics of looking mean or protecting him then doing what's right. Unless next season is a repeat of this one, or the bottom completely falls out, he won't be fired then either. If IU was serious we'd be looking for a new coach right now. You damage a program by keeping bad coaches too long, and IU keeps doing exactly that.

Woodson adapts? Has he watched IU?

We can respect what they did as players at IU while being honest about what they've done since. Buckner was the point guard on an undefeated team, even all defense in the NBA. He was a horrible coach that got fired after just one year and is putting his friend over the good of the program. Woodson was a great player at IU and NBA journeyman. Not a particularly good coach though and despite how the NBA recycles coaches after the Knicks fired him (after just 3 years) no one gave him another HC gig and was out of coaching completely for a couple years. He should've never been in consideration as IU coach. He's either got a huge ego or knows his friend is protecting him, or some combination of both. Thomas was a great college player and NBA all star. He was an awful coach and horrible executive that drove the CBA into the ground. For students today and many fans the players you're thinking of exist only in pictures and known in abstract as program legends. Their accomplishments as IU players were over 40 years ago. I respect what Woodson did as a player, it's part of why I didn't want him (aside from being a lousy coach) because it was probably going to be an ugly split. As a coach he needs to go; not next year or whenever, he should've been gone already. Edit: and I'm about sick and tired of people saying maybe the fans are the problem or that our expectations are too high. The fans are about the only thing keeping this program somewhat relevant; holding expectations and demanding they be met is how we get back, not by making excuses and lowing standards. Tom Crean basically said just recently the fans are fine but the administration is toxic.

Pearl has more energy to him than Woodson does even if he is in his 60s. If he does what we think he did then he'd stabilize the program and get back to the tournament regularly and leave it more attractive to younger coaches when he retires. After our last 25 years I'd rather have 7 or so of a guy that's won everywhere then risk a guy that could be here 30 or need fired in 3.

Auburn's out, get Pearl on the phone.

https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/sports/college/iu/2024/03/21/indiana-football-leadership-captains-spring-practice-curt-cignetti-iu-transfers/72994439007/

9 offensive boards allowed and 12 turnovers in one half. You'd think Woodson took over coaching FAU.

Don't put that out there, IU administration will try to cut through the rock.

Football has been a mess since day 1.

I recommend they hire Mike Woodson and Armond Hill.

We're nothing compared to them. Give UK our last 25 years and those fans would burn the campus to the ground.

Unfortunately the administration needs an immediate change in mindset for that to happen. Ditch the pure unadulterated nepotism and the habit of keeping lousy coaches too long.

Seems like it'd be smart to try and keep what talent they did have so they only need 6-7 portal players instead of an entire roster.

You got those backwards. He was second in ppg and first in rpg.

No they don't, they probably have an lifetime extension ready just in case.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2024/03/21/indiana-football-qb-position-battle-2024-spring-practice-kurtis-rourke-tyler-cherry-iu-curt-cignetti/73050568007/

That's probably what people should prepare for. They had a chance to move away from 2 bigs last year and doubled down on it instead. IIRC they sold Mgbako's family on him playing the 3 as well. EDIT: Maybe they add another guard and bring Galloway off the bench but I don't see them deviating from that much.

You'd have to wait until after the tournament for any home run hire, even next year. At least make an attempt and maybe they get knocked out early, he's not a guarantee but as is we're guaranteed stuck with a dud.

That doesn't sound like they're even serious about a home run hire, because several times would mean he didn't say not interested. At least try to get a sure fire winner.

The program has been mismanaged for around 25 years.