JSHoosier

Davis's last season IU was 19-12 (9-7) and tied for 4th in the B1G and won a tournament game, he got fired. Woodson was 19-14 (10-10) and tied for 6th with no post season, and IU was afraid if they fired him people might think they were serious about winning. IU's fall is self inflicted, they gave up on expectations and started making excuses for coaches failing to perform. Davis got fired for doing better. Davis also won 5 out of 6 against Purdue in his last 3 years including sweeps in each of his last 2.

There's a reason I put might in italics. Woodson got to the tournament, and got whooped, with Miller's players and missed completely with his own so far; at least Davis can say he went to the title game with someone else's players. Woodson hadn't been a HC in almost 10 years, and was out of coaching entirely for a couple of years; no one else was going to give him another shot and there’s a reason for that.

Of the coaches we've had since Knight was fired, excluding Dakich as interim, he might be better than Miller/Davis but that's it; Crean was better and Sampson isn't even a discussion. Yeah, he's pretty lousy. I'd agree we're ready for a great coach again, but at this point I have less than no faith that IU will land one or really make a serious effort after hiring a guy solely because he played here 40 years ago.

Too bad they still have the misfortune of being coached by Mike Woodson. Yeah, last season was poor roster construction that he was responsible for but he's also a lousy coach that can't maximize what he does have.

I fully expect them to look for every excuse to bring him back unless he burns down an orphanage on Christmas Eve.

With Triple H running the show you could see people getting pushes that wouldn't have under Vince. McMahon was integral in turning WWE into a global machine instead of his father's regional show but he had his idea of a superstar and if you didn't fit that ideal it was going to be more difficult for you, but if you did he'd push you hard. He also had a tendency to not like things he didn't create, see the joke run for DDP and Sting losing every solo match.

For some just barely squeaking into the tournament would be a success.

Force feeding the post, not as many 3s as people expect. Excuses out the rear the second something goes wrong. Can't wait.

We're stuck until Mike Woodson decides he's done.

Clearly some posters have woken up from a 3 year coma. I'm glad you're awake, I wish you didn't have to be subjected to whatever Woodson calls coaching.

Maybe easier than admitting that Woodson is a lousy coach that either can't, or won't, change. Which would also mean the one place stupid enough to give him another shot at HC was too stupid to move on.

Or have new players to integrate.

Some people actually think Mike Woodson, who said the 3 is not a point of emphasis, will make the 3 an emphasis. Good luck with that.

Special circumstance being the Mike Woodson Disaster Relief Fund.

At this point would anyone really be surprised if IU hired a fictional character to be coach? I mean it doesn't get much lower than "screw it, you played here 40 years ago so you're hired".

If Stevens wasn't a 100% certainty, I'd say no it wouldn't. Without that certainty it's just "maybe we can land the white whale this time if we stick with the crappy coach another year". Sorry, you don't stick with a lousy coach like Woodson in favor of Stevens unless Stevens is a guarantee.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwnot2pEKaA

Goodman said he heard from multiple coaches the asking price for Ballo was 1.2m.

I read touchdowns and safeties are scored as normal, then 4 points for turnovers and 3 points for defensive stops.

I think McMahon was a walk on.

And for billionaires 2m isn't a drop in the bucket. Yep. He was always going to get players, no one said he wouldn't, especially with 6m to spend. He's still the same Mike Woodson that has admitted the 3 isn't a point of emphasis. The same Mike Woodson that got fired from the Knicks after his teams had the same problems we're seeing here, then never got another HC gig. And if Chris is right that Woodson is already tired of this portal season it just shows he wants the NIL money to be a substitute for actually doing part of the job he was hired for.

I don't have a problem with them spending money. I have a problem that they're doing it so much now just to avoid having to admit it was a mistake to hire a guy no one else would've answered the phone for.

Yep. Like I've said, imagine a good coach having this support instead of just trying to buy a team that not even Woodson can screw up. I wanted Crean gone and the last two hires make him look good.

Just take down the others, since actually winning something doesn't matter to IU.

I thought Kentucky's mating call started with 'hey cuz'.