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Game presser for the National Champions.

We definitely like doubled our trophy cabinet in one year lol.

Bloomington in a good mood

I got a feeling Miami can dish it out, but they can’t take it.

Rough day for PU and ND fans. Really rough. :-)

I don’t think we disagree much. When I say I don't see "too much advantage" I mean something like 0.5 points.

Fernanda. ;-)

People will all make their lists to drive discussion and engagement, which is fine, it’s fun. But the most unbiased view is the betting odds. Someone posted these in another thread, but this is what’s out there now.

Yea. Maybe there is some advantage to being familiar with playing there — sight lines, etc. But, at the end of the day it’s an NFL stadium. A field with stands around it. So, with a neutral crowd in the stands I don’t see too much advantage to our opponent.

Yea. Something like that. I know we want more RB depth, but we can’t sell many touches right now, so I get why it’s been a bit tricky to get one more RB. Definitely not too big of a deal imo.

It’s a great day for a National Championship game. Go IU!!!

Yea. CDD is not getting fired after one year. Kind of pointless to have a thread with a bunch of fights over a hypothetical with zero chance of happening. Woof. Once we see how year two goes this topic could become worth debating. Hopefully not, but things will need to improve quite a bit here. I am in favor of firing sooner rather than later every time. But after one year? No way. And it also makes no financial sense/is not financially possible anyways.

On that note, I’m not too high on Drew Adams for a lot of reasons, his role with Reed being one. I wouldn’t mind seeing him swapped out for someone else after this year, but I don’t know if that’s in the cards. KJ is a little iffy too in my view.

Nice. Miami is full of IU folks and I hear Fort Lauderdale is too. I know we just saw this happen in Pasadena and Atlanta, but I’ll never get tired of IU fans converging on a city for a big game.

Yeesh. T-Cal!!! You weren’t kidding. I know it’s just a prediction and he could be wrong, but I’ll take it! I’ve got his little intro jingle stuck in my head. CAN’T NOBODY STOP US CAUSE WE BUFFED IN PRIME.

What gets us to top-10 roster spend do you think? $13-14M? I'm just guessing. I dunno... if CDD can't make the dance with $10M, I'm not sure he can anything too exciting with $13-14M. That's my concern.

'07-08 was the launch of the B1G Network, which helped our media rights quite a bit, some of which IIRC was allocated to MBB. But I'm not going to look up whatever the amount was, if it’s even out there. We'll see what the big time donors do with MBB. I don't have a read on them except that they're going wild for football.

Yea. I don't know exactly how we get to $10M roster spend -- something like $3.5M rev share and $6.5M NIL. The rev share is the AD's call, but that NIL could be at risk. CDD is going to have to work the donors and have a great speech at Hubers to explain what went wrong and why it will not repeat. Because if I am a donor, and he asks for $2M more, I'm gonna ask if that's for another Reed Bailey?

We don't have the money -- there isn't $22-30M laying around to change out the staff. As for estimating revenue, I just look at historical revenue trends. Revenue doesn't move as much as one might think -- CBB doesn't make a lot of money and IUBB always sells a lot of tickets (even if they're unused). Look at our all-time low point of 08-09, it just didn't dip that much vs. years we were better like '07-08 or '11-12. And if you want a splashy hire, add $6M+ per year in HC comp vs. what we pay now. I'm not happy with the start of the CDD era, but a staff change right now isn't financially in the cards.

The other angle is this is financially not possible right now. CDD's buyout is $18-19M after this season, add $1-2M for staff buyouts, and that's ~$20M to get rid of this staff. Then add $2-10M more to buyout whatever coach gets picked next, and we're talking $22-30M to flip the MBB staff. Mind you we just spent $12.7M for forcibly "retire" Woody ($6.5M) and pay WVU's buyout for CDD ($6.2M). IU is not paying $22-30M for a new bball staff right now. We don't have that money and it would be a huge waste vs. spending it on football. Or even MBB players. Or whatever else. If you look at the numbers, IUBB (and CBB in general) doesn't make a whole lot of money. Even if, and it's one heck of a giant IF, the next coach got IUBB going, that's only going to increase revenue ~$2-3M/yr. Maybe $4M at best. That's a crap return for spending $22-30M on a new staff, and there are no guarantees they'll be better. The IU athletic dept doesn't financially need IUBB to be good. IUFB is driving revenue increases, university exposure, and our influence in college sports. Our fans/donors have not been this fired up in 40 years. I agree CDD is off to a bad start. I'm disappointed and have serious doubts. But I can't see anything happening until year three, because that's how long coaches get and we can't afford to move right now anyways. So, the only options are to hope for the best or tune out. I guess another option is to post your displeasures on BTB.

Probably this article.

Idk. He got a nice NIL bump for this season, top third of the SEC now in NIL, and he’s stinking it up, Ole Miss is #59 in KenPom.

This gives me some hope. But then again I look at Reed and wonder how they missed so badly scouting him and I am alarmed… We’ll see…

Yea, CDD’s buyout is 80% of his contract, which is $18-19M right now. It’s gonna be three years at least… Well, whenever the next hiring process happens, I would put Cig on the search committee and he interviews the candidates. He can weed out a bad coach in any sport and recognize the ones that have “it.”

Yea. Let him lead a hiring committee. Just need him to interview candidates and weed out the losers. He is the only one who can figure this out.