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Two missed tourney’s and zero tournament wins through 4 seasons would have had our Charmin-soft posters heads exploding on here.

Maybe you just need some thicker skin.

I’m not sure the internet’s for you.

Such a triggered bunch. Going to be a long and miserable winter for some.

Another person who doesn't know what floor means ^^^ And I'm not sure why you'd care either? You don't even root for the team to win and have stated on multiple occasions that you don't intend on tuning in this season.

I’m good

22 wins is absolute worst case scenario ie the “floor”. Would entail a devastating injury or two, Rice/Carlyle not being anywhere near as good as advertised, and/or team never gelling together. 22 wins and a 6/7 seed would be a major disappointment. There’s 8-10 other teams in the country whose “floor” is 22 wins. That’s how good next years team is going to be. Imagine getting caught up where the absolute worst case scenario is still comfortably making the tournament and still being expected to advance? What is wrong with you people?

Someone clearly doesn't know what floor means ^^^^

Funny that you posted a thread created in February of 2022 BEFORE he lost in the first round (again) to a lower seed (again) in the tournament a month later. The expectation for Hurley entering year 5 was that he better show something in the tournament. Luckily for him he passed with flying colors and hasn't looked back since.

UConn fans were literally calling for his job. He was in put up or shut up mode going into year 5.

That's not at all the comparison USPS was making. He was saying that Wright, Drew, Bennett, etc deserved more time despite have similar or worse resumes through 3 years over Woodson because they had more experience in the college game. Which is an absolute nonsense argument.

The bolded statement is just a flat out lie. Year 3 UConn lost in round 1 as a 7 seed to 10th seeded Maryland and in year 4 UConn lost as a 5 seed to 12th seeded New Mexico State. He had zero tournament wins at UConn prior to winning back to back national titles, in fact he came into year 5 with a very warm seat.

So being an assistant coach at Hofstra, Valpo, and freaking Army trumps being a head coach for a decade at the highest level of basketball!?! lol. Don’t hurt yourself too bad doing those mental gymnastics. Good lord.

-Jay Wright missed the tournament his first 3 years -So did Mike Krzyzewski -Scott Drew didn’t win his first tournament game until year 7 -Tony Bennett missed the tournament 3 out of his first 4 years and didn’t win his first tournament game until year 5 What else you need?

The current best coach in college basketball, Dan Hurley, would have been fired based on this boards criteria for retention well before winning his first title. Through 4 years at UConn, Hurley had: -two missed tournaments -zero tournament wins -both tournament losses to lower seeded teams -highest conference finish of 3rd place Jay Wright wouldn’t have made it here. Nor Scott Drew. Or Tony Bennet. Coach K would have been fired long before he ever saw national success. You need more or do you get my gist?

Agree wholeheartedly, but 5-6 years to gauge a coach is entirely different than 3 years. I’d wager substantially his 4th season is better than any of his previous 3 seasons despite being written off by a large portion of this board. He’s 66 not 96, plenty of time left to leave a big impact on the program even if he’s only here another 3-4 seasons.

lol what? There’s 1154 pages and over 23k posts of the same regurgitated opinion. Not one person has stopped you from saying the same thing over and over again.

I can give you countless examples of either HoF or future HoF coaches who had similar or lesser resumes after 3-4 seasons than some of those listed above.

So if you don’t win a title by year 3 there’s no hope? Rinse, wash, repeat? Is that what you’re telling me? GTFOH

I've already acknowledged Northwestern was the 2 seed via tiebreaker in the BTT, however, that doesn't negate the fact that both teams still finished T-2nd in the final regular season standings. Only an ignorant person would continue to argue that Indiana finished in 3rd place. It's like saying two teams that finished 17-1 aren't co-champs because one team was the 1 seed and the other team was the 2 seed. I will assure you that IU still recognizes it's 2002 B10 regular season championship despite being the 4th seed in the BTT that year via tiebreaker.

I'm not arguing that Indiana wasn't the 3rd seed in the BTT, they still finished tied for 2nd in the conference in the regular season, not 3rd. That's not how standings work, you're showing your ignorance.

I'm not spinning anything lol, you're the one who said IU technically finished 3rd when they literally finished T-2nd.

Mark Pope has yet to win a game in the NCAA tournament

Because you can't have two #2 seeds, seriously? If two teams are tied for first both are considered champs even though one gets the the 1 seed and the other the 2 seed. Don't be dense.

Cal left because of the irrational fan base who cut off his NIL supply making it impossible in this climate of college basketball. And because of that ended up with Mark Pope.