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Goodman suggested it last night

I don't think he's alluding to those 3 in the present day: Matta circa 2003-04 Beilein 2006 Stevens 2011 or 2014-15

Figured this was common practice at most universities, at least at the ones who care anyway, still shocking to hear once you realize it's amateur hour at the university we all love and support.

I didn't feel like typing this last night, but I don't have a busy day today and figure I'd share an encounter I had a few weeks ago with someone who I feel is qualified to say what they had to say. So a few weeks ago I ran into Mike Berghoff at a Pacers game. For those who don't know, Mike is head of the Board of Trustees at Purdue. Mike and I go way back. Lived in the same neighborhood for many years and attended the same parish/school where some of our kids ran in the same circles. Hadn't seen him in awhile but small talk quickly turned into a conversation about IU/PU and the direction of both programs. After about 30 seconds of rambling on about Woodson he politely cut me off and said this: "The problem isn't Woodson, look at your leadership. Look at who has been running your athletic department the last 10-15 years. Fred Glass? He's a lawyer. Scott Dolson? He's a fundraising guy. Who qualifications do either of those guys have in evaluating and conducting a coaching search?" Of course I couldn't disagree with him and he went even further. Went on tell me that after being appointed chairman, his first big athletic task was naming a successor to Morgan Burke who had just announced his retirement. He said he along with the rest of the board, Mitch Daniels, and a small advisory group consisting of former Purdue athletes identified 5-6 candidates. He said the one qualification each candidate must possess was prior experience as an AD (shocking). Said Mike Bobinski was easily the most impressive interview despite not being the most qualified candidate and that was with Mike Bobinski already holding the title of AD at two other universities. He said only one time in nearly 10 years has Mike Bobinski come to him for permission to do something and that was firing Darrell Hazell mid-season. He simply said, "can't believe you didn't ask me sooner". He went on to tell me that during the search for Hazzell's replacement he gave 2 order to Bobinski: 1) This is your budget 2) Use your head He wanted no part of stepping on Bobinski's toes because at the end of the day that was why they hired Bobinski in the first place. Just thought it was interesting to hear a perspective from a rival school from someone so close to the situation. Just goes to show how dysfunctional the leadership at Indiana has gotten.

Wish it didn’t take Woodson 4 months into the season to figure that out.

Despite all the disheartening news earlier this evening, this team hasn’t quit amidst all the wild rumors and speculation. Hats off to them.

Playing our way back onto the bubble….of the NIT that is. That’s the spirit.

Not sure what’s more believable; the fact we only attempted a single 3 pointer during an entire half of basketball or the fact that we’re winning despite attempting a single 3 pointer during an entire half.

There’s a better chance Dolson sent Scott’s email to the Ed School for students to proofread it than him actually reading it.

His hands weren’t tied. He’s a shill just like those that came before him.

It’s not cursed. It’s incompetently run.

Might as well rename SSAH the Flanner Buchanan Assembly Hall because that’s what home games are going to resemble next season. Just unbelievable.

Better start fielding AD resumes while we’re at it. Zero chance Dolson survives next season.

Bruce Pearl worked his way up the corporate ladder for nearly two decades before landing a big boy basketball gig. Again, not saying Dusty May can’t or won’t succeed at Indiana, he absolutely can. But it’s far from the grand slam many people have stated should IU go that route. It’s a bloop double at best.

He doesn't have a shot outside 7-8 feet and isn't a rim protector. That's no bueno in the NBA for someone 7'1.

That largely depends on who he'd be able to bring from FAU and who he can convince to stay. If he's trying to fill 8-9 scholarships in year 1 it's not going to be a fun year.

All very true, but again it's going to be a part of the job he hasn't yet experieced. How's he going to manage ego's of 4 and 5* players? Does he sit a 5* freshman on a near 7 figure deal over an upperclassmen? Can he get a bunch of highly touted kids to play in his system right away? These are all legitimate concerns and issues May has yet to face. It's a huge reason why Archie failed.

But when you know you're going to get 4-5 years and are in no pressure to win from day 1, it changes the entire dynamic of things.

Shaka Smart was a disaster at Texas. Same with John Groce at Illinois. Todd Lickliter was horrible at Iowa. It happens every coaching cycle.

It isn't just Archie. There are dozens among dozens of coaches who have built programs at the lower levels because they have coached in no pressure situations and given the necessary time that have completely flopped at a higher level.

Davis is the only one with a chance to make the NBA and I don't think he's a surefire draft pick. Goldin doesn't have a game that translates to the next level. He's good around the rim offensively but not a great rim protector or rebounder for his size.

I would strongly caution going down this road. Indiana is currently being coached by a former playing legend and I would say more than half the fan base is ready to move on from him after year 3 and it's a very real chance it's going to happen. And that's with making the tournament in years 1 and 2. May isn't going to get 5-6 years to build the program they way he wants too like he did at FAU. If he misses the tournament in years 1 and 2 he's going to have to do some serious damage in year 3 or risk losing a big portion of the fan base.

Almost has to bring those 4 starters. He needs to win and win quick. He's not going to get a honeymoon like Crean in the portal era.

Wasn't that Crean and Archie's upside too? Isn't that really the upside for any coach under the age of 50? I don't think many AD's have a 25 year plan in mind when evaluating potential candidates.

Getting Dusty May because Bruce Pearl said no is one thing, if it comes out that Bruce Pearl legitimately wanted the job and IU told him no and hired Dusty May instead.....multiple people should be out of a job and college athletics forever.