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What a terrible analogy lol. Beard wasn't falsely accused of anything. GD man be better.

Didn't mind the Archie hire, had the credentials to get the job here. But when the fan base turned on him after losing 12/13 in year 2, I knew it was over for him. Just not many coaches who have the skin to survive something like that...that's why X's and O's is only a fraction of the body of work needed to succeed here. Just not likely to find that kind of acumen when you hire somebody without big boy head coaching experience.

Fair enough

He will be soon enough. He's going to kill it in his home state of Tennessee once Barnes retires here in a year or two.

Beard is a more proven coach but with a past that makes him nearly unhirable. Will Wade did what every other successful coach has done (except he got caught) and since he was at a non-basketball school like LSU, they made an example out of him. Wade is 10 years younger, very advanced in working the portal, and is an elite recruiter.

Just telling you. Due to the administration's moral superiority, we're going to end up with someone like Ben McCollum or Jerrod Calhoun instead of someone like Chris Beard or Will Wade who you wouldn't have to worry about for the next 15-20 years. These guys are going to be walking into an absolute powder keg. No P5 experience, never coached having to meet absurd expectations, zero experience recruiting high level players, zero experience managing high level players with egos, etc etc What do you think is going to happen? I don't understand why people are shocked that we do this every 4-5 years....Oh yeah I do, it's because everybody thinks Brad Stevens or Bruce Pearl is taking this job. Rinse.Wash.Repeat.

Don't disagree. That's why IU is pretty much another job these days.

And this is why we'll be right back here in 3-4 years doing it all over again.

Yeah? And the pitchforks were out before his 2nd season ended. Once you lose this fanbase, you’re effectively done.

I’ve never accused the IU administration of being competent have I?

Exactly. And we’re not willing to give a guy 2-3 years to get an unorthodox system instituted and the right personnel in place. Whether it’s Brad, Dusty, or the next door neighbor…you better win and you better do it quickly or the pitchforks come out.

Will Wade would be here tomorrow if offered the job. Can’t say that about Stevens.

It's not. I'm not interjecting myself into any more Stevens circle jerk talk. When Woodson is let go and this board wants to get serious about realistic candidates I'll gladly partake.

And yet wouldn’t sniff a 28-2 record.

Rick Pitino never went 28-2 in the MAAC coaching at a low major. What gives?

Wouldn’t expect you too, then again there isn’t much I expect from you at all.

You think Woodson is getting the talent he gets at IU to McNeese St? And some are calling me disingenuous?

Yet coaching at a top 5 job I’ve been told.

Going 28-2 in any conference is an enormous feat regardless of who you are and not something I would expect anyone to do.

He was out of job and no NFL team was willing to give him head coaching/GM double duties which is something he absolutely wanted.

My expectation was a second weekend appearance with a $6mil roster. WTF does that have to do with the Southland? You think Mike Woodson is going 28-2 in the Southland?

Steve Lutz recently coached in the Southland and was 21-11. Now at OK State and probably on the hot seat.

No I don’t think any high major D1 coach could just stroll into McNeese St and go 28-2.

Slick Rick had to learn to walk again at Iona for a few years (after a stint in Greece) before the big boys came calling.

Other than the Stevens’ who have already turned down $70 million to come to Bloomington