Kentuckysucks

If we eat enough White Castle we can land another Movement.

I've always thought guys like Beard and Marshall would kill it here. I go back to what the Marquette beat writer said when we hired Crean. It's exactly what I was getting at when I said outside of Sampson the fans have hated all the hires. "That's not to say that Crean's a perfect fit. In my estimation, his biggest strength and biggest weakness are horribly mismatched with Indiana. Crean's biggest strength is his ability as a promoter. His pre-game Jumbotron messages to fans, a mind-blowing number of promotional give-aways, and his tradition of shaking hands with the student section on the way out to the court all helped to build interest in the program. And while it never hurts to be a great promoter (just ask Bruce Pearl), I'm not sure that that's what Indiana needs. Indiana basketball has never seemed to me like one of those things that needs much promotion. People in Indiana are always going to be basketball crazy, even if you don't give then a bobblehead and constantly shake their hands. They don't need to put butts in the seats--they just need someone that knows basketball. And that brings me to what I see as possibly Crean's biggest weakness--he's a pretty shaky game coach. Simply put, if there are 15 seconds left on the clock and my team's down 2 points, I'm not feeling real confident if I look over at the bench and see Tom Crean putting together the plan (why do I feel like I'm foreshadowing a Wisconsin loss at Indiana next year where I end the night feeling like I'm being repeatedly kicked in the groin). I could be wrong, but Indiana seems to me, more than almost anywhere else, to be a place where they'd value an Xs and Os genius. Tom Crean is not that. His ability to get guys to run through walls for him can mitigate this weakness a lot of the time, but I have to think that his lack of remarkable basketball acumen with not play well with a fan base that expects their coach to be a skillful tactician." https://chriswesthoops.blogspot.com/2008/04/tom-creans-leaving-huh.html?m=1

Strangely Crean was even worse and got 9 years.

Offer Chris Beard close to that and see what happens. He'd win big here. I'm just saying this can be fixed. All depends on how bad the administration wants it.

Everyone considered him to be a very good coach. I knew plenty that had ethical issues with his hiring but everyone thought he was a great coach. That's really what I was getting at.

The Hoosier Hysterics guys belong in an asylum.

Dad, what was it like to be an IU basketball fan from 1973-1993?

Lol https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/i-want-john-calipari-arrested-immediately.401553/

The problem is the administration keeps hiring guys the fan base never wanted. I have a long list of family and friends that attended IU and are huge basketball fans. The only hire after Bobby that any really supported was Sampson. Most of the fans are already rooting for loses to speed up the firing process before the coach has even coached his first game. Bring in Beard, Pearl, or Marshall and the fans would all rally behind them. You're probably right about Drew but he was very doable when we fired Archie imo. Dusty May be a grand slam. We just don't know with him. Whenever Woody is canned the administration needs to do what it hasn't done before...give the fans what they want.

I told everyone at the time that Woody would be just as bad as Archie possibly worse. Trayce saved his @$$ for 2 years. Now you're starting to see the real Mike Woodson.

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Matta failed his physical. Never he said he turned them down.

I wonder how many of those are still standing. Quality had to of been poor.

He was a complete scramble hire. Dolson thought he had Stevens in the bag otherwise Archie isn't fired for another year. Went after Holtmann, Matta, etc first.

It's a business not a charity. The Colts had no problem throwing away an aging Peyton Manning, the best player in franchise history, for what they thought was the next Peyton. We could easily have the next Brad Stevens here and our current coach is 66 and pretty mediocre. The fact that this is even a discussion just shows me how lost we are as a program.

Timing is always just a convenient excuse for our completely inept administration. Any other school would make it work.

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IU 85 MS 56

It was the fist speech he gave to closeout the interview that sealed the deal.

Agreed but would totally be worth it just to see the reaction from Champaign.

I asked Chris on here about Pearl, Drew, Marshall, and Pitino shortly after we hired Woody. He responded saying IU was far too holy to ever consider those 4. I'm sure we reached out to BS, Donovan, Oats, etc but we're not getting those guys. The sure fire winners we could land will have some baggage. That's really what I'm hitting at. Think Chris Beard who would win big here and would likely crawl to Bloomington.

Have you ever been to Waco?

You're making our point. If we miss the dance this season and it's looking like next season won't be any better I can almost guarantee you any other top 10 program would be cutting bait right now. Alford took UCLA to 3 S16s in 4 years and got canned. But we're IU. Gotta give our 66 year old coach in the NIL and portal era at least 6 years. The problem IU has is outside of Sampson the fan base has never been behind any of the post-Knight hires. People are already turning on Woody and it will keep getting worse. Gonna get ugly I'm afraid.