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Kopp got beaten badly enough on the boards at the 3.

The best part in a few days will be the Kansas people accusing IU of being dirty. Hopefully.

My point wasn't to compare Mallory's schedules to Allen's. My point was that the teams Mallory beat were generally poor non-conference opponents and lower level Big 10 teams. That fact can easily be researched and is not debatable. So while Mallory was certainly one of Indiana's best football coaches, his tenure wasn't exactly the roaring success that people here who didn't live through it seem to believe. As I said, the people here who bash Allen would have been bashing Mallory back then.

None of those teams were good at all in the late 80s.

I liked Mallory as well. Great representative for IU, just like Allen is.

I was an IU student during the best of the Mallory years, the late 80s. I think what people choose to remember now is much better than what it was. Northwestern and Wisconsin sucked then, and Penn State hadn’t joined the Big 10 yet. Mallory dumbed down the non conference schedule and generally beat non conference cupcakes and the bottom of the Big 10. He was 1-39 against teams that finished in the top 3 of the Big 10. The years he beat Ohio State and Michigan, they finished in the middle of the conference at best. So those of you who get your thrills bashing Allen would have done the same to Mallory.

Pretty sure that’s a recruiting violation as he mentioned a recruitable athlete by name

It’s likely he hasn’t even met half of those people. Doubt he met all the people at IU he connected with on social media. When they’re serious about something, they connect with the people connected to it, whether they’ve met them or not, if that makes sense.

It means that as of right now, he is very serious about IU, which means a lot more than if he wasn’t connecting with very many people there.

I have 3 teen-aged boys, all involved in athletics. One is getting a lot of mail from colleges. Ngw7183 is 100% correct as to how they handle social media. One thing I will add, though, is they also change their minds a lot, even when they appear to be deep in, lol.

Woodson can’t recruit and the program is burning in hell. Lol.

That’s right, I think you mentioned that a while back. My apologies. Hard to keep them all straight and actually get any work done, lol.

Someone on Twitter claiming we’re recruiting Keshon Gilbert of UNLV. Any info about that?

Lol. I didn’t say he should be our next coach either. I said other P5s will want him. And they will.

Mike Woodson pre-Kent State media availability: March 16, 2023 - YouTube He says it at about the 6:48 mark of this video.

I don't know if there would be a thread about him. I never made a claim about that one way or the other. Maybe there would be. He's accomplished something pretty special. What I said was a lot of people with no IU ties are going to want him. A lot of people with no IU ties know how good he is. They've probably done more than glance at his record and find some guys they don't like to compare him to. For anyone really interested, FAU, unlike Loyola-Chicago, and certainly unlike Dayton and Butler, has accomplished nothing in basketball. They had something like 8 straight losing seasons when May took over. The previous coach won about as many games in 4 years as May has won this year. May started with next to nothing, but has had all winning seasons, and five consecutive of them. For those who think he just stunk for 4 years and all of a sudden became good this year, his KenPom rankings the past 4 years have gone 191-181-129-17. They were consistently ranked 240-300 for many years before he took over. He has been building this at, again, a place that has never done anything. He's an extraordinary difference maker there. It is astonishing. So I'm not sure what you are "not buying."

I was more referring to the part where you stated “if he didn’t have an IU connection.” I think many people with no IU connection realize he’s good. And I get the comparison with Porter Moser but, respectfully, there is no comparison. I’ve certainly not followed FAU to the extent I’ve followed IU, but I’ve done much more than just spend a few seconds looking at his record. If you want to compare him with coaches who have made magical runs, think more Brad Stevens and less Porter Moser, Archie Miller, etc.

I'd be willing to bet the folks who believe that will find out they're wrong in a couple weeks when you see P5 schools come after him.

And that’s the difference between Dusty May and any of the other guys mentioned in this thread. The coach before May was 34-89. No past program success to fall back on like Crean at Marquette or Miller at Dayton. No “somebody else’s players” because this is May’s fifth year there. All his guys now. May built this himself, out of basically nothing. A Final Four team at Florida Atlantic.

Trying to figure out what sense it makes to come here and bash the program, say it “won’t win,” but then want to keep the players.

You’re obviously too young to remember Uwe Blab, particularly his first two years here.

This. It was A LOT bigger problem than most people seem to realize, IMO.

Oh, but if you look at their message boards, they think they could go get Nate Oates or Bill Self. It is seriously the most delusional group of fans in sports history.

Their schedule ranked dead last #363 in my ratings and their conference ranked as the worst of the 32 conferences.

Just thought I'd note here that I had FDU #313 out of 363 teams in my final computer rankings. As far as I can find, they are my lowest ranked team that's ever played in the tournament.