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For sure. If the team wins, he will look like a genius of course. But all coaches have scouting misses, it happens to the best of 'em. Hurley / Mahaney, Pitino not taking Clayton with him to SJU from Iona (assuming Clayton was willing?) Hubert Davis whiffed big time on Cade Tyson. Woody arguably whiffed on half the roster last year ... it's not an infrequent thing in the transfer portal era especially. Odds are not all of these guys will be as productive as they were in mid-majors, but I think DDV has a clear vision like you said and was part of turning around / building Creighton, and can get these guys to play as a team better than their individual talent. But they're going to have to show us that. In the meanwhile, we speculate and hope for a foreign trip to be arranged. Can't wait for the DDV era to really get started.

There absolutely is a fair question about quality of the roster - and will be until we see them on the court. At the same time, the roster rankings just mean nothing to me after last year's "#1 haul" in the portal ... IMO next year's team could easily show they're far more talented than this past year's. And while the computers may rank us at 30-40, the roster people were hyped about last year doesn't look so good now. 247 lists last year's class and this year's class (so far) both having 8 incoming recruits. Outgoing players rankings: 4 four stars, 3 three stars, one no star (Dallas James lol) Incoming player rankings: 7 four stars, one no star (Deuce with multiple years of eligibility) I am thrilled with the blue collar approach to roster building. Couldn't care less about making statements to the CBB world right now. We have to earn it / prove it on the court. Then we can make statements. All sizzle no steak is more the of a pUKe thing, IMO

LFG!!!

Very excited about this pick up. This seems to solidify we won’t have Goode back next year regardless of the waiver, which while disappointing for sentimental reasons… seems worth the trade off for two years of Dorn, who could develop into a very good 3 & D type player. #13 CG in the portal. 6’7 200. We are going to have backcourt / perimeter play IU fans haven’t enjoyed in far too long. Kudos DDV and staff.

What’s the staff’s batting average now? Lol. Seems there hasn’t been much “swinging and missing” …

Seems like it very simply boils down to how you view the question. All-time IUBB Defensive Team as in impact at IU? Or best raw ability defenders to have ever come through IU? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

You can tell he is truly proud to have been the HC of IUBB. Definitely was time to move on, but he had some success here too that he can hang his hat on. Nearly a decade since, hard not to appreciate the guy.

Conerway and Enright split time at 1, Deuce as third ball handler. Wilkerson / Miles / Dorn at the 2/3. DeVries play a little 3, a lot of 4. Bailey split time at 4/5. Miller or Fedx2 at the 5 would be cool. Curious if we end up with either of them or someone not being talked about much. Would love to add Dorn but it may be a stretch. Like the direction of the roster.

Adding Dorn would be awesome. Perimeter offense should be a real treat next year. Very curious to see who we get at the 5.

I think this is just a sh!tpost since that gif is sort of a meme in itself and has been used to refer to the guys from Finland and Iceland already too lol

Haha. Ooops

IMO yes Conerway/Wilkerson/Miles/TDV/Bailey Maybe if we sign him Federiko x2 could start over Bailey depending on the match ups? Kinda doubt that though. Maybe if we sign a stud wing that pushes Miles out? Idk… I think that’s our starting lineup though.

Nobody is expecting less. They’re just saying having a year like UK or UM or UL is not a minimum requirement for DDV to work out here. People who are rightfully upset by missing the tournament would just have to deal with it and hope he does better next year. Our payroll doesn’t guarantee a thing.

Welcome to IU! I think he goes by Deuce

Right, just that he will lose the fanbase after one (1) bad year in his first year here. Like that’s indicative the entire hire was bad. If the recourse is more disappointed fans that’s hardly a change from the past decade. I expect to make the tournament. If we don’t I’m not going to pout and sulk about how we’re stuck for another 3 years at least. IU fans haven’t watched a winner being built since Knight in the 70s/80s. People moping that we should be better and fans need to express their discontent won’t make things any better. The fact we are having this conversation at all after a relatively hot start in the portal just goes to show how bad IU fans PTSD has become.

UConn has won like 20% of the men’s titles since the turn of the century. Even after a bumpy start they stuck with him because he was their guy and it paid off for them big time. If they can afford a few years of missing the tournament without firing their coach/having fans screaming for his head, I don’t see why IU fans would have higher expectations right now. Our programs aren’t remotely comparable in the modern era.

Not directing this at you, but find it really hard to believe Trilly Donovan would have any idea what the prioritization order is of our recruits… just don’t see how he/they would know especially since they don’t seem very plugged into IU generally.

Theres been so much of that over the past decade for IUBB. It won’t be anything new. And a few disappointed hardcore fans won’t have any bearing on his ability to succeed. The donors who get access will have a longer leash IMO and “normies” are always going to mindlessly do the job of fans… which is to show up and cheer. That’s the bulk of the fanbase. So I guess us hardcore fans will just have to cope and keep on being a fan through the highs and lows or do what they need to do to protect their feelings and tune out until IUBB eventually starts winning again, with DDV or someone else

We agree this is probably ultimately moot. And we do agree the fans pretty much make up their minds by year 3. Just saying, sometimes things can get off to a bumpy start and still be worth sticking it out. Like my marriage. Lol

“He won’t get that long” or “we HAVE to make the tournament in year 1” = “I’m really tired of IUBB sucking and don’t want to wait anymore.” We’re all in the same boat. Thank goodness we finally have a real CBB coach again. Gonna get IU back on track even if it takes a minute.

How on earth can you say that when Mike Woodson just got four years because Archie Miller got four years? DDV is probably getting at least four years too. Lmao. Gonna be a lot of handwringing today over hypothetically missing another tournament like we haven’t done that more often than not the last ten seasons.