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as in "thats the million $ question"...?

What's wild to me.... If media.. Big 10 Fans,... Casual Fans... National Media... All know that there are serious problems. Why has no-body at the top of the Big10 addressed them? Not sure if its officiating or style of play... but how has this been almost a 30 year problem at this point?

I’m in favor of just ending the season if we lose this game

Hard to watch a do or die game where we struggle to keep it within 10 points

I just finished listening to the Hoosier Hysterics Podcast with Jeff Goodman. A few things that stood out to me: -IU maybe could have had Brad Stevens before he went to Boston but they didn't pursue + extended Tom Crean -IU doesn't spend the resources in order to be a top program like Duke. UNC, or Kansas -IU didn't reach out to my top candidate Chris Beard -IU doesn't have the same level of facilities as any other top programs -There seems to be a general theme that IU administration has this holier than thou smugness and moral high ground to where they want to "Virtue Signal" to CBB that we run a clean program and won't touch certain coaches like Chris Beard or certain recruits My question is, and has been for 10 years now. Is this a Coach issue, is this an Athletic Department Issue, is this a donor issue, or is this a Board of Trustees issue? With the right coach - can the coach fight to build a top practice facility in the country, (even if we just spent money renovating the one we have), can a coach go after and change the department to be a national power? Can he get the UK series back? can he fix some of our scheduling issues? Or do these fall on someone else? ----My Opinion based on some conversations with friends is that Woodson isn't the wrong guy for the job, he's just not the long term solution. so we're likely going to be in this scenario in about 5 years when Woodson is 68/69yrs old.

Do you have sources?

How is it not a program issue?

So 10 missed tournaments in 14 years. 6 straight misses with 3 different coaches. One missed tournament is a coach or player issue. This is a PROGRAM issue. This is because of Fred Glass, no? He has to take full responsibility as he ran the athletic department for a DECADE. There were obvious deficiencies with Crean and Archie in their first year's that never improved. Do we expect that Woodson's deficiencies will be turned around next year? Was this year just growing pains? Is IU doing anything to recognize and fix the fact that a once proud and storied program is no better than a mid-major? We are not even a top 10 Big10 program.

Wonder if that’s on Dolson, or state of affairs his predecessor left him in

Was there any indication that Stevens was ever interested in the job? or did we just go in blind with the brinks truck?

So reflecting after last nights game. UCLA - Fires Alford: Gets embarrassed by offering Calipari, Then Rick Barnes, Then Jamie Dixon I think / sure I'm forgetting someone Then settle on Mick Cronin They go to FF and have top 25 Team. IU - Fires Crean, Billy D says no Stevens either says no or was never contacted Hire Archie Fire Archie Stevens says no again Apparently all top coaches say no We hire Woodson Miss the tournament 6 years in a row

Chris, Is it normal for a school like Kansas, UK, Arizona, Duke, UNC, to split the head coaches salary with a booster? This seems strange to me? So Indiana is not an attractive job - did any of those coaches say why they said no?

Was Dolson, the AD, not allowed to hire the coach?

I believe they renegotiated his salary, which wasn't public. This is based on the conversation with Goodman.

Imagine you're IU athletics.... You're Fred Glass or Scott Dolson.. You know you're firing your head coach in 1 or 2 years.... How do you make the job more attractive? Do you PAY up, start facilities upgrades (even if just planned), new licensing agreement with Nike, Better Scheduling, Donors who can facilitate bag boys, and 10 other small things you could do?... Or do you pay an average salary, not make the job any more attractive because "Its Indiana"... Its not that IU isn't attractive because of external factors that we can't control... It's not attractive because our admin isn't making it attractive. BTW.. The head coach of Wake forest makes $2.04M, Woodson makes $3M, Chris Beard $5M, John Calipari $8M. We offered Steven's $10M yr... but he was still owed $30M from his Boston Contract. so its not like he was getting a huge pay raise.

Well said. Does no one want IU if we're paying $7m a year and have facilities and fantastic administration? Or does no one want IU getting paid average salary, poor facilities, bad sponsorship, and an inept administration?

Can someone provide inside info on why "No one wanted the job".... How is louisville a better destination that IU?

At least lose to him in a bidding war than assume he's not going to come and not even reach out.

The baseline is literally missing the tournament 10 out of the last 14 years.... SO UM, I'd be happy with a tournament.

He didn't end up here because we didn't ask. Only Beard know's if he would come here or not. If in 5 years he goes to UNC or DUKE, then where's your argument stand?

Name your source.

The issue is Crean should have never been extended in summer of 2012. PERIOD.

100 Percent

Lol then Close your eyes and don't participate in the thread Brumdog. I'm not asking for woody to be fired. I'm asking if an insider can tell the board if the admin recognize our deficiencies (not coaching) and have a path forward.

As fans we don’t have much insight into the inner workings of the athletic department, but we leverage what we do have as an proxy for how the department is run. facilities are not a problem in a vacuum, but the fact that our practice facility isn’t anything special, combined with the thousand other micro aggressions (like uniforms/scheduling etc) it paints a picture that that the admin doesn’t know what they are doing or doesn’t care. Is there a specific person to blame? There’s probably a couple.. my question, have things been fixed, are they getting fixed? If no, who needs to be fired to turn it around? asking an insider