IUrocker

Agreed. This is what I’ve been thinking as well. Some of these players are probably thinking screw this, not what I signed up for, which in a way I get I suppose, but makes me feel even worse for Archie. There’s quite a bit of IU fans I’ve seen on other sites saying things like they thought Archie was supposed to be better than this, we hired the wrong guy, blah blah. I, on the other hand, am completely aboard the Archie train. These are most likely a group of players that he wouldn’t have even recruited himself if he was already coach at IU. I always thought most of Crean’s teams were soft and didn’t have that tough, killer, go-get-em instinct, other than a few select players of course. This group of kids are used to a completely different style, and a coach that most likely didn’t get on them about things CAM does. I too wouldn’t be surprised to see one or two more players bailing on Archie at year's end. I honestly think 3 of the currently signed players for next years class are good enough to come in and be in the starting lineup. Phinisee is an obvious need at point guard, Hunter is a great player, and Anderson can flat out shoot the ball. The “we may have hired the wrong guy” talk I’ve been seeing lately on other sites is waaaaay too premature.

I’m here at the game and honest to God, Crean’s lead assistant coach Tim Buckley is here sitting in the first row of seats up over by the media table watching th game...hopefully he’s not shouting down “remember what we taught u, guys!!”....

http://www.insidethehall.com/2017/12/02/video-archie-miller-reacts-to-loss-at-michigan/ 2:12 into the video, Archie’s reaction and response to the Duke question was awesome.

I have way too many non-IU fans at work and a really short fuse when it comes to people talking crap about IU basketball...uggh, this is gonna drive me insane and I’m gonna end up getting fired..

What drives me nuts is it’s the stupid turnovers that just make you scream “are you kidding me??!! Why would you do that??!” Just careless, low IQ, half-a$$ stuff that really isn’t Archie’s fault and are things most of these kids have done their entire time at IU. Obviously it drives Archie crazy. It really is mind boggling to think we played so well against Duke and then look like this in other games against far less superior talent. Whether we had the home court advantage or not, it’s still the same players out on the court who should KNOW they need to be giving the same effort out there regardless of who they play. Treat every team like they are the #1 team in the nation!!

Maybe we'll get lucky and Allen won't make the "trip"...

oh, i absolutely agree that it's all of them, i was just trying to be nice on here, haha. I definitely like your way of stating it better...and believe me, i sure as heck make sure i let them know what i think of them when they have something to say!!

Uggh, already sick of my Purdue co-workers giving me the 'ol "how about them Hoosiers?!"....if they only knew what's coming...all of them are just about the most ignorant, immature people you'll ever meet, too. (Not saying all purdue fans are, but these particular guys certainly fit the bill). They seem to care more about how bad IU does rather than how well their team does. My obsession with IUBB let's it really get under my skin, haha.

Heck, it could be our night to drain 17 3’s...seems unlikely, but I bet Indiana State thought the same thing. Still scared though, yet anxious to watch another game! They really do need to start NOT playing like “boys” though, that’s for sure.

So refreshing to have a coach with that mindset. I’m sure he’s frustrated so far with the lack of effort, but it’s to be expected in a way I suppose, just because of what most of the players are used to being coached by Crean. Crean recruited and coached “we need to outscore our opponent to win”, while Archie is “we need to prevent our opponent from scoring as much as we do.” Crean’s philosophy backfired big time if the team wasn’t hitting shots. When I saw that screenshot of the bench after the Howard game of most of the players having dejected faces, I was hoping it meant they were thinking they can and should do better if they want a chance to compete this year, rather than thinking “screw this, I don’t want to have to play this way.” I definitely liked the way Durham and Smith played, and am on board with them getting more minutes. Fortunately for them, Crean’s opposite way of coaching compared to Archie’s was never instilled into their heads, so obviously they don’t really have any old habits they need to break.

..and boy, am I looking forward to a roster full of those tough, hard-nosed kids that fit Archie’s criteria. Archie hit the nail on the head when he commented after the Indiana State game that the team is “soft”. Although I appreciate everyone IU has on its roster and will always root them on, it’s definitely the truth. Crean recruited and coached teams that were “let’s just try to win games by outscoring the opponent”, while Archie’s mindset is “let’s prevent teams from scoring as much as we do”. The current roster just isn’t used to knowing how to do that, and Archie knows it. Crean’s philosophy backfired hardcore if the team wasn’t hitting their shots. That screenshot of the IU bench after the Howard game told a tale, which I hope is one way rather than the other. I’m hoping it was the players being down in the dumps that they know they can and should do better, rather than thinking “wow, I don’t want to have to play this way.”

I’m from the Fort Wayne area. If a kid from one of our local schools announced at his school that he was going to Duke, people from their school aren’t gonna be like “uggh, you should have stayed home and went to IPFW!!”. They are gonna be excited, pumped, and proud that he was going to play basketball at a big school like Duke. (I’m not trying to compare Vanderbilt and IPFW as basketball destinations, only as local stay home schools). This is why I don’t think it matters that he is announcing at his school. I’d like to think that if he chose IU, people in his area are gonna think it’s a big deal and be excited for him because they know IU is a big deal.

I almost wonder if Darius and Romeo chat with each other and talk about exactly what’s going on with all the anticipation these two have built up among the IU and Vandy fans. If so, then I don’t see Romeo listing Vandy in his top three as an issue. He knows Darius has a top two of IU and Vandy, so Romeo keeping Vandy and IU in his top three keeps up the anticipation and excitement of their recruitment. May sound silly, but with big recruits like this, knowing they are interested in playing with each other, keeping a couple of the same schools on their list instills the speculation until it’s all said and done.

Nice, yep that’s an early start to the day! My place of employment only has two shifts, 1st starts at 3:00am, 2nd at 3:00pm. I’ve been there 13 years and about 7 of it was on the 3:00am start. Even though I did it that long I still couldn’t get my body to be ok with getting up at 1:45am to go into work.

My work schedule is Fri/Sat/Sun, three 12 hour shifts, and then I have Monday thru Thursday off. I ALWAYS want the weekends to end, but yes, especially this one! Ha

If Meyer is known as one to change his picks late in the game and last minute, then I sure hope he isn’t messing with us by keeping his IU pick now but then plans on changing it Monday..

As we watch the IU game in progress on Wednesday, we see at the bottom of the screen “breaking news: Darius Garland commits to Indiana University”...I mean, that’d be cool...

If Garland doesn’t announce until Monday and Meyer somehow thinks that it’s not IU, would he wait until Monday to change his pick?

Hopefully Darius and family see the Vandy staff’s last desperate shot at hope with all these phone calls and contacts as annoying instead of thinking something like “wow, they are really putting in work to get us to go there”, and be impressed by it (which I highly doubt). Plus, if he has made up his mind already then hopefully nothing they do or say at this point could change it.

Could Shittu want to go to Vanderbilt if he knew Garland was gonna pick IU so that he could be THE guy at Vanderbilt?

Hopefully his dad saying he is focused on just one school at this point goes along with the Shittu info being put out there, but in a way that says “we’ve had our school in mind for a while now, and this new info about another kid hasn’t changed that.”

Hopefully Darius and his family had their hearts set on IU, Bryce Drew slipping in to talk to them after they discussed things kinda gives the family a “we know what you’re trying to do here” feel, and they are smart enough to not let anything he does or says affect their decision.

So if he does make an announcement tonight, it will happen by what time? Gonna try and advise my wife how long I’ll be refreshing my phone every minute BEFOREHAND so I can avoid the “being annoyed” stage, lol

Cool, thank you....send a little prayer our way while you’re at church!! Haha

I know Yogi mentioned Evan being there watching Garland could mean something like him getting a date in which he plans to commit, or actually committing tonight. What is the most likely scenario just based off who Evan Daniels is? Does HIM being there make it any more significant than the other?