HoosierMatty

I think it's just a general rule most schools don't like to fire a coach in the middle of the season versus at the end. And generally the optics probably look better. Only in extreme circumstances do they make that move. Regardless of whether we think it should happen now clearly they don't feel they he's met that bar just yet. I think the plan is to definitely make the move at the end regardless. One thing to consider is the pressure of QB and Ferguson to protect Woody making firing him tough enough. Getting them out of the way may mean comprising and promising them they will wait until the end. As much as that makes me want to puke, I can totally see that. That being said looking at the schedule remaining I see plenty of blow out losses to come. I honestly think he might not get a win until Washington. If he's loses bad the next 3 games maybe we see them finally pull the plug.

I just want him gone period. I don't care if it's at the end of the year or mid season firing. Honestly at this point I kind of want it to happen at the end rather than now. Woodson is an arrogant jerk and deserves to hear all the boos when we get torched by Michigan and Purdue.

Congratulations. I can't think of a better birthday or anniversary gift than a Woodson firing.

Today is my birthday. Let's hope my wish comes true. The King is gone and we finally get a real coach.

And of course we can only be so lucky when the game doesn't really count.

I watched the first half today and it's the first time I have watched in a good while. It's so god awful to watch. We have plenty of talent but there is no passion and we run the same stagnant offense. We should destroy teams like this by at least 30 but they let them hang around. Its unbelievable to me we beat Tennessee in that charity game this year. Seriously how did that even happen?

I can honestly say I haven't watched a full game since the South Carolina game. And I was only casually watching as I wrapped my daughters birthday presents. Since the Louisville game I have completely checked out. The only thing I keep up with is the board. Woodson has to go.

Of course only when people stop coming to kiss the kings ring does he notice things aren't going well. Narcissistic all the way through. It's a shame. I was never for bringing back a former player to coach just for the sake of it. But I would have never had imagined he would be the guy to do more damage to fracture the fan base the way he has.

Interesting... would these people close to him be his booster friends and Quinn? I truly hope the combination of the poor performance and all the dirty laundry coming embarrasses these people so bad they stay out of the way. Do you think its likely they tell him to retire and he listens?

Maybe Dusty wouldn't leave after a year, but one has to wonder why his buyout is so low if we wasn't eyeing to leave at some point. Michigan seems ok with it. From their standpoint they probably didn't want the buyout high in case he was a bust. And if he turns out to be a home run hire they can easily renegotiate. Either way I don't think it will be easy to get him after a year. I look at it like Brohm taking the Louisville Job. Yeah he probably still wants the IU job but he may not want to leave after year. Once again our timing sucks because our administration sits around with their thumbs up their butts. No sense of urgency to get things right. If we pulled the trigger earlier on Davis we could have got Matta. If we got rid of Crean sooner maybe would have got Brad Stevens.

This is exactly my thought. To me under this suggested framework, The AD should be the one coming up with candidates and getting consensus and agreement. They are the one in the drivers seat. Instead you have our AD being completely disregarded and has another candidate shoved on them. A choice no sane person would chose. And it's not the first time it's happened before. It happened when Adam Herbert pushed Sampson and told the AD to hire him over his preferred choice. Basically at IU the AD is nothing more than a figure head. One to take the blame when a collection of incompetent presidents, board members and donors make hiring decisions. Heck we talk about how awful previous AD's have been, sounds like it's been intentional.

We have the talent to win the Big Ten but we will finish 5 or 6th at best. And it's all because of Mike Woodson. I wish it wasn't the case. I'm just so sick of the mediocrity of this program. And I'm tired of the fans being blamed for being served a S**t Sandwich for the past 30 years and for not liking it. My hope is the Cignetti hire has lit a fire in the administration that getting the right coach makes a world of difference.

I guess I should clarify. I'm not really debating coaching acumen, obviously Archie had worse results. I'm saying Woodson has been the worst at killing my fandom. Archie sucked but when we hired him it wasn't the head scratcher that Woody was. Archie was an up comer that other people wanted. Woodson was a failed 60 year old NBA coach. I gave Woody a shot and the initial results were better. But now he's clearly a bust we can't get rid of him. He's taken the most scorched earth approach and attacks the fans, and taunts his own boss for being protected by the donors. If he wasn't who he is the cord would have been cut already

I really don't care about basketball right now. Part of that is because the Football team is rolling, but mostly because of Woodson. We have the talent to win the Big Ten but we will finish 5 or 6th in the conference because of Mediocre Mike. It's sad the guy is a former player but he's doing more right now to burn down last bit of fandom I have. He's worse than all the previous bad hires. My hope is after this pathetic season is over that Dolson is allowed to finally get this right. The Cignetti hire should give him all the leverage he needs.

At this point this is a make or break it year for Woodson. Either he has a great year and shows he can change his offense, or he fails and he won't be back. We aren't going to get recruits like Mullins unless he shows progress. And after this year they have to decide if they extend his contract. I don't have much faith he will turn it around but I hope I'm wrong. If he fails I hope they unshackle Scott Dolson and let him make a good hire. The Cignetti hire hopefully gives him that leverage.

When it comes to Stevens I will believe it the moment it happens. Otherwise I just think it's a pipe dream. That being said if he ever wanted the job or still wants it, I think the whole mash hole speech was over the line.

Winning is obviously most important at Kentucky but you really have to have the right personality. The UK fan base is truly a circus and they need PT. Barnum carnival barker. Someone truly a master of BS. Pintino and Cal excelled at both. Toward the end Cal's ego started to bug the fans but that's because he wasn't winning as much. Before they lapped it up. I'm not sure how many of their candidates can adapt to having a more show man like personality. But as long as they win I guess it doesn't matter. As a Cat fan once told me, I would hire Bin Laden if he wins. Pretty much sizes up their fan base.

Looking at things objectively I don't see Calipari going to Arkansas being a good thing for them. He will bring in recruits but I don't see how the results will better for them than UK. As much as he wanted to get away from their fans base he will have to deal with them when they play at Rupp and it will be ugly. Almost Pitino at U of L bad. It will be curious to see if UK can get a big name. At least they get a chance at finding something better. We are stuck with our arrogant 64 year old with a outdated offense.

I can't imagine Hurley ever leaving UConn especially since he's already winning national titles, is a north east guy and getting paid lots of money. Just don't see it .

So if we have no traction in the portal is there a chance they fire / retire Woodson?

No coaching hire is 100 percent guaranteed to succeed. I get that Dusty has more risk than others, but it really sucks if he does succeed at UM. Because if he does he will likely take in state recruits and kick our butts too. And there is no guarantee we can get him later if he succeeds there. And you will bet UM will give him a huge buyout.

You know we've just about hit rock bottom as fans when we are trying to do the mental gymnastics necessary to convince ourselves "Alford" isn't that bad.

If Auburn chokes in the tournament do we reach out again? Or does this nightmare continue regardless?

So if Dolson has to get a proven winner like Pearl, does that mean Pearl said no ?

I think context is always important. People turned on Woodson quickly because he was someone no one asked for or thought was qualified to begin with. People gave him a chance but we have seen the same problems each year get worse. Now he has no recruiting class. I agree part of the problem is fans are so restless from the years of just making stupid hire after stupid hire. It was never the fans fault these coaches didn't work out