Aaron

Like I said I won't believe anything until I see it for sure. What I do know is what Rabjohns said and that Osterman said today on a podcast with the Star he's heard of no changes. Doyel has said he's heard of no changes despite the article and JMV said on his radio show he's heard IU doesn't want to fire Crean. As I said everyone could be misinformed and deliberately mislead (I posted on this earlier) but tea leaves point to him staying from people who's face I l know. I also know one of the four guys personally mentioned above but not going to say which. Trust any of them before any message board poster.

Like I said that may be true but until I get something else credible I have to believe someone like Rabjohns over all this other speculation. Don't want to believe it but logic says go with the guy who's face you have seen.

By who? A credible reporter or more anonymous posters? Like I said until someone credible says differently unfortunately I have to believe Rabjohns as much as I don't want to.

That's the problem. From what I can tell the only verified info we have from anyone credible is Rabjohns source saying Crean back. Everything else is rumors and speculation.

Yeah but Rabjohns might know what is going on and it doesn't sound good. I don't believe anyone else knows what is supposedly going on including this trustee meeting that is not confirmed or that trustees are trying to tie Glass' hands.

Wait so is it trustees or Glass who want Crean out? We can't even seem to get that straight?

Unfortunately I'm inclined to believe Rabjohns (assuming he said it and he wasn't hacked which is sounds like he did say it) more than an anonymous message board poster. The only media member I will not believe without further confirmations is Albers. Maybe Rabjohns is wrong and he is not 100% confidant yet which is why he has not gone public with it but this is probably most concerning sign Crean may be staying.

Again the question is has Rabjohns been on this board and given people that info or are people merely saying he has given info. That is key.

This writer who has the stuff on Crean staying could also be Mr. Mess up Justin Albers who keeps saying Crean is staying (I can only hope). If he has the story that would be best cause he would screw it up and it means Crean is actually leaving. Also interestingly Zach Osterman said today on Sterling that he thinks Crean is staying based on what he has heard. Everyone has different info. geesh.

My question is did Rabjohns say this on either twitter or somewhere on a board or is this poster merely saying Rabjohns has info to troll people because I am not finding Rabjohns saying anything? If Rabjohns is saying it we are in trouble. If merely some is making up Rabjohns saying it than who cares.

Another question I just thought of is how many people with 'sources' are being lied to? I can tell you day before Sampson hire I asked someone very much on the inside I knew well at time (and have not talked to since) if they knew who IU's next coach would be? Not only did they not say they couldn't talk about it (which I would of been fine with) they said they had no idea. Next day I hear that person thanked as an integral part of bringing Sampson aboard at introduction press conference. Needless to say I was angry at time when I heard his name at press conference and hated him more as Sampson screwed the University. I also have a friend on the inside who often tells me he can't talk about various things I've asked him about IU which I perfectly respect and he remains a friend to this day. Just don't lie to me. My main point though is how many 'sources' have been lied to by someone within they think they know well only to find out they had their leg pulled? Again my point is no one knows until an announcement is made what is true.

You can't have been on the waiting list since 03 unless you declined tickets. Everyone was offered tickets in 08-09 on waiting list and the waiting list was exhausted at that point. I as well as family bought in 2010-2011 with no waiting list. It returned in 12-13 when IU was number 1 and has remained with at least a small no. of people on it since.

I think 100,000 a yr is the minimum to be considered a big time booster but not positive. Could be more or less.

Again we don't know that Glass was leaning towards keeping him despite the rumor but this is definitely possible. It could be to ask them for money for a big name coach for all we know. My point is we don't know either way or that Glass was planning on keeping him yesterday.

I know of one booster who wants him out (and its a really big one I promise you). Not sure how strong they are pushing for Crean's ouster or how much Glass respects this person but I would think he does given what they have done in the past. No idea if other boosters want him out but I would think they do given state of program. I would also assume Glass respects anyone who gives big bucks or he wouldn't be athletic director.

Again nobody knows if that's really true that he was planning to announce that. That was a rumor. Could be true. Lets not treat it as gospel though.

The poster said he heard a rumor. Who knows if that's true. If Glass truly doesn't care what boosters think and their donations dry up I can promise you McRobbie and the trustees will intervene and dump Glass. I also saw Rabjohns said he thought boosters were meeting and a change would be made from what he's hearing based on what I read earlier in thread. I certainly would believe Rabjohns before I believe some faceless poster on twitter or the board.

A supposed meeting with boosters can be nothing but a good thing. Only possibilities to come of it are: 1. Either Glass won't listen (if he indeed planed to keep Crean) and will force them to pull donations and that will force Glass out eventually 2. They will talk him into firing Crean 3. He is firing Crean and asking them for big $$$ to hire a new top coach instead.

So this 'rumor' about Glass announcing yesterday (no idea if I believe it) was put on hold by trustees. If that's the case maybe trustees were leaving it to Glass hoping he made the right decision. Then when they heard he planned on keeping him they got involved and told him change your mind or you are out also and now a lot of posturing is going on between Glass and the higher ups over Crean. Wouldn't doubt this but hard to know if a rumor is to be believed.

Completely agree. I have no way of knowing how good we will be or whether we do things competently. I was just saying there is 0% athletics get de-emphasized or having funding cut as a poster indicated with Butlers situation being an important example of what happens to presidents who become hostile towards athletics (big difference from staying out of it and letting tohers lead which is what McRobbie has done so far).

As I said read what I wrote about Butler on the previous page and you will see their is 0% of IU deemphasizing athletics.

McRobbie can be pushed out as well for not caring about athletics enough. I know for a fact former president Bobby Fong at Butler was either pushed out or resigned because he wanted to de-emphasize athletics even after Butler's run to the championship games. Needless to say that didn't go well and Fong left to take a job at a small D3 school with no athletics. My point is when your IU, athletics will never be devalued when push comes to shove no matter who the president is as Butler showed us a few years ago. Now how good the teams will be I have no Idea but 0% chance athletics is de-emphasized.

I for one am as anti Alford as it gets and would be my last choice among available candidates. With that said if it's Alford or Crean I choose Alford. Anyone else or Alford I choose the other person (besides Sampson of course). Keeping Crean is literally the only way I will probably not renew my season tickets (I have standard season tickets and make no donations so I have no power to influence) although I would still watch and buy a few games cheap from secondary market.

Does this look like a guy content with Crean or team? This was taken last night by media when Glass was watching game. Hopefully this means he is not happy and makes a change.

Everyone needs to calm down until a decision is made. You know how many coaches assume they are coming back and talk that way until they are fired? I will reserve judgement until I hear an official announcement.