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  You obviously have the first one right but the second one is one of my favorite IU football trivia questions because few people remember it right away.   The answer was 2001 when the IU-Kentucky game was postponed because of 9/11 and eventually played after the Bucket game in early December. It was also a noteworthy game because it would be Cam Cameron's final game as the IU coach. Another thing that happened that night was IU lost in basketball at Southern Illinois. Southern Illinois did end up going deep in the NCAA Tournament but that would be the IU team that went to the national title game against Maryland.   Lots of fun facts there. I feel like Donald Davidson sometimes.

The formula for Indiana to get to postseason play has always been simple: Win your four non-conference games, go 2-6 in the Big Ten and you'll be playing football beyond the Old Oaken Bucket game. But that 4-0 non-conference mark has been much more difficult than you would think. In the last 20 years, IU has only won all of its non-conference games three times.The race is about to begin for Indiana football. It’s a race to win all four non-conference football games and position you to move a step closer to that elusive bowl game. In less than a month, IU will open the 2015 season with a home game against Southern Illinois. Should be an easy win, right? Indiana should dominate play on both sides of the ball and easily get to 1-0, right? Well, not so fast. The non-conference season has never been particularly friendly to the Hoosiers. Going through IU’s schedule in your head and circling non-conference victories may seem like the thing to do but more often than not it has led to disappointment. Remember last year when you thought realistically Indiana would probably go 3-1 in the non-conference season, beating up on three cupcakes and losing to Missouri? But the Hoosiers actually won at Missouri, scoring a stunning upset. Too bad IU had lost at Bowling Green the week before. The 3-1 record happened but not as anyone would have predicted. How about 2013 when IU finished 5-7 and actually won three Big Ten games against Penn State, Illinois and Purdue? But IU went 2-2 in non-conference play losing home games against Navy and Missouri. Even the year before that in 2012, a 4-0 non-conference record would have made for bowl eligibility in Kevin Wilson’s second year with the Hoosiers. But IU lost to Ball State and Navy that season and finished 4-8. No, the road to a perfect non-conference and had plenty of pot holes over the years for Indiana football. And yet with a 2015 schedule that includes Southern Illinois, Florida International, Western Kentucky and Wake Forest, you can bet that there are a lot of IU fans that are thinking the Hoosiers could easily be 4-0 by the time Ohio State comes to Bloomington to play before what will likely be a capacity crowd in Memorial Stadium (albeit a lot of scarlet and gray) on Saturday, Oct. 3. But there are no sure things when it comes to non-conference football opponents and Indiana. Think Southern Illinois will be a cakewalk? I’m sure IU thought so the last time Southern Illinois was in town. It was Terry Hoeppner’s second season in Bloomington and he actually missed the game because of health issues. He snuck into the press box and watched the game against doctor’s orders. As it turned out, he probably wished he would have stayed home. Indiana lost to Southern Illinois in that 2006 game, 35-28. It’s a sad reminder to Indiana fans that even though the schedule may be filled with teams you think you’re supposed to be able to beat that doesn’t mean it will turn out that way. And yet, as IU looks ahead this season at a schedule that also includes Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Michigan and Maryland to name a few, you have to think a 4-0 start will be nearly imperative if the Hoosiers hope to increase their chances at bowl eligibility. For as long as I can remember, the magic formula for Indiana football to get to postseason eligibility has been simple: Go 4-0 in the non-conference season and 2-6 in the Big Ten. Do that, and at 6-6, with as many bowl spots the Big Ten has locked up, chances are your team will be playing in the postseason. Sounds simple enough, right? For Indiana, however, it has been anything but simple. In fact, it has been nearly impossible. In the last 20 seasons, dating back to 1995, Indiana has gone unbeaten in the non-conference portion of the schedule three times: In 2007 and again in 2010 under Bill Lynch IU went a perfect 4-0. In 2007, the Hoosiers were able to work that formula successfully and get bowl eligible. The other time was 2005 when the Hoosiers opened 3-0 in Terry Hoeppner’s first season in Bloomington. But that’s it. The other 17 years, Indiana fell short against a less than prominent non-conference schedule. In fact, only two times in those 17 years did IU go 3-1. The other years were two wins or less. Overall in the last 20 seasons, Indiana’s record in preconference play has been 42-30. Wilson’s teams are 8-8 in four seasons. Lynch’s teams were an impressive 13-3. Hep’s two teams in 2005 and 2006 were 5-2. Gerry DiNardo’s teams were 5-6 including a big road win at Oregon. Cam Cameron’s squads were 7-9 and that was with Antwaan Randle El at the QB helm four of those years. It would be interesting to look at schools like Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin and teams like that and see what their record is for the last 20 years. It would certainly put IU’s misfortunes into proper perspective. With all of that information as ammunition, and still with a month to go before the regular season starts against the Salukis, what are your expectations for IU’s non-conference record in 2015? And if the Hoosiers don’t go 4-0 in non-conference play, what do you think their chances are to earn bowl eligibility? It’s really early but I love making prognostications. And I think IU could technically go 3-1 in non-conference play and still find three Big Ten wins. The three that come to mind are Rutgers, Iowa and Purdue. But again, a lot has to happen before any of that can even become a dream. Remember last year, had you made those same remarks, all three of those games would have been in the second half of the season – after Nate Sudfeld had gone down with his injury. But it’s still a good conversation starter for this time of the year: What do you think IU’s non-conference football record will be in 2015? @IndySportsHutch [url=https://btownbanners.com/page/index.html/_/football/analysi/analysis-the-hunt-for-a-4-0-start-r163]Click here to view the article[/url]

  A 4-0 start would be amazing and it would turn a few heads around the Big Ten. A 5-0 start might get the Hoosiers ranked (but I'm not going down that dream path just yet).   In three of Bill Lynch's four years the Hoosiers opened the season at 3-0 and provided a little hype. In all three of those years, though, IU then moved into Big Ten play, twice losing to Michigan and once to Illinois.   The last 4-0 start for IU football? You have to go all the way back to 1990 and that Peach Bowl team that lost a tough one to Auburn.   If it seems like that was forever ago, that's because it was.

I enjoy the optimism. I really do. But my point of reference is 17 prior years covering Indiana football, and as we all know the Hoosiers have only played two games beyond Dec. 1 in all of that time.   You do know what the two games are, right?

Darius Latham, Zeke Walker and Devondre Williams hogged the informational nuggets that IU coach Kevin Wilson shared Saturday during Indiana’s Football Media Day at Memorial Stadium. Latham, the big 6-5, 305-pound junior defensive lineman from Indianapolis North Central has yet to practice. In fact, he had his knee scoped this week and is out three weeks. The good news is that Kevin Wilson was minimizing the injury and indicated that Latham would be back shortly. Technically, he could even be back in time for the season opener though Wilson didn’t say that. Wilson said that Latham had had an unbelievable summer. “It was hands down the best I’ve ever seen him,’’ Wilson said. “It was his work ethic, body language, buying in, giving it all he’s got, doing it daily and just doing a lot of things that great players do in prep. I think he’s going to have a phenomenal year. He is going to be limited for a few weeks. But he’s still on the 105 and he will be a part of the mix. It’s a very short term deal.’’ Wilson also said that outside linebacker Zeke Walker, a redshirt freshman from Columbia, S.C., is experiencing a back injury, too but it’s not as serious as that of Clark. Wilson expects Walker to be back soon. Devonte Williams, recruited as a running back out of Columbia, Md., may now be playing corner. Wilson said he has good depth at the running back position and believes has the skill set to be a physical corner. Plus, that’s more of a position of need and it could provide Williams a quicker avenue to get on the field. Finally, Wilson said that LB T.J. Simmons and TE Anthony Corsaro are both practicing but they’re being monitored closely because both had offseason surgeries. There will be some drills in practice where Wilson puts different colored jerseys on them to prevent them from getting hit. He said they are both practicing but that he’s just doing it as a precautionary measure. Wilson also said there’s nothing new on WR Camion Patrick and he said it could be another 7-10 days before that situation is resolved. Here are a couple of other headlines from Saturday’s Media Day. BATTLE AT LONG SNAPPER Wilson said the Hoosiers have added freshman long snapper Dan Godsil from Ottawa (Ohio) Glandorf to the mix and now have three players competing for the long snapper spot. He said he got spoiled in the past because Matt Dooley had been a four-year starter at the position. Wilson said Godsil will battle Nolan Guedel, a redshirt sophomore from New Palestine (Ind.) and Josh Pericht, a redshirt sophomore from Orland Park, Ill. “There should be tremendous competition at that position,’’ Wilson said. LATHAM GETS TO THE POINT Latham may not be practicing yet but he was one of eight defensive players brought to the room where interviews were being conducted around tables scattered about the room. And Latham wasn’t holding anything back when he was asked if he thought IU could hang with the better teams in the conference. The three teams mentioned were Ohio State, Michigan and Michigan State. “We have guys who think we can beat those teams, not just hang with them,’’ Latham said. Latham said that feeling has developed over the years. “I think it used to be, and I don’t know why, but the older guys thought when we played those teams that it was just going to be an ‘L’. You could mark it up,’’ Latham said. “That isn’t the feeling any more.’’ Latham was asked about IU’s dismal bowl history in the last 20 years, too. “We’re looking to get way past just a bowl,’’ Latham said. “We’re thinking whatever comes with it. Big Ten championship and even farther than that.’’ WILSON SAID TO EXPECT FRESHMAN CONTRIBUTIONS In his remarks at Media Day, Wilson was hesitant to say too much about the incoming freshmen because after two practices and no contact, he wanted to make sure he had the right information before making a prediction. What he did say is that all of IU’s freshmen at both wide receiver and cornerback should be in the mix and several could end up playing right away. On the offensive line he said that both Brandon Knight and Simon Stepaniak could be in the two-deep as true freshmen. That doesn’t mean that won’t be redshirt but it means they could be counted on to play if needed. Beyond the freshmen DB’s, who Wilson said could all potentially play, he said Jacob Robinson has stood out the most on the defensive line. But he’s not certain he won’t redshirt either. The reality is that IU’s depth is better across the board which may not necessitate the number of freshmen that have played in Wilson’s system in the past. COMING UP THIS WEEK Wilson said after two days of helmets only, IU would have upper pads on today and Sunday and full pads on Monday. He said two-a-days would begin Tuesday and the first scrimmage would be Saturday, Aug. 15. Generally all scrimmages are closed to the public. Wilson said there would be mid-week scrimmage next week and another scrimmage on Aug. 22 the weekend before school begins. @IndySportsHutch

  I agree with that at some positions but at others I think IU is a lot deeper than it has been in any year that I've covered the Hoosiers. I like the fact Wilson may feel as if he doesn't need to play as many true freshmen as he has in recent years because the depth is indeed that much better. And like I wrote in another post, I'm not sure IU has to go 4-0 but I would think it has to go 3-1. I think there are three wins waiting for them in the Big Ten if, as you pointed out, they can stay healthy.   Saw that was your second post and so welcome to the site and we look forward to you giving some thoughts and feedback.

Indiana football had its annual Media Day today and Btownbanners was there. Here are some news and notes from Saturday's event in a room just off the field at Memorial Stadium.Darius Latham, Zeke Walker and Devondre Williams hogged the informational nuggets that IU coach Kevin Wilson shared Saturday during Indiana’s Football Media Day at Memorial Stadium. Latham, the big 6-5, 305-pound junior defensive lineman from Indianapolis North Central has yet to practice. In fact, he had his knee scoped this week and is out three weeks. The good news is that Kevin Wilson was minimizing the injury and indicated that Latham would be back shortly. Technically, he could even be back in time for the season opener though Wilson didn’t say that. Wilson said that Latham had had an unbelievable summer. “It was hands down the best I’ve ever seen him,’’ Wilson said. “It was his work ethic, body language, buying in, giving it all he’s got, doing it daily and just doing a lot of things that great players do in prep. I think he’s going to have a phenomenal year. He is going to be limited for a few weeks. But he’s still on the 105 and he will be a part of the mix. It’s a very short term deal.’’ Wilson also said that outside linebacker Zeke Walker, a redshirt freshman from Columbia, S.C., is experiencing a back injury, too but it’s not as serious as that of Clark. Wilson expects Walker to be back soon. Devonte Williams, recruited as a running back out of Columbia, Md., may now be playing corner. Wilson said he has good depth at the running back position and believes has the skill set to be a physical corner. Plus, that’s more of a position of need and it could provide Williams a quicker avenue to get on the field. Finally, Wilson said that LB T.J. Simmons and TE Anthony Corsaro are both practicing but they’re being monitored closely because both had offseason surgeries. There will be some drills in practice where Wilson puts different colored jerseys on them to prevent them from getting hit. He said they are both practicing but that he’s just doing it as a precautionary measure. Wilson also said there’s nothing new on WR Camion Patrick and he said it could be another 7-10 days before that situation is resolved. Here are a couple of other headlines from Saturday’s Media Day. BATTLE AT LONG SNAPPER Wilson said the Hoosiers have added freshman long snapper Dan Godsil from Ottawa (Ohio) Glandorf to the mix and now have three players competing for the long snapper spot. He said he got spoiled in the past because Matt Dooley had been a four-year starter at the position. Wilson said Godsil will battle Nolan Guedel, a redshirt sophomore from New Palestine (Ind.) and Josh Pericht, a redshirt sophomore from Orland Park, Ill. “There should be tremendous competition at that position,’’ Wilson said. LATHAM GETS TO THE POINT Latham may not be practicing yet but he was one of eight defensive players brought to the room where interviews were being conducted around tables scattered about the room. And Latham wasn’t holding anything back when he was asked if he thought IU could hang with the better teams in the conference. The three teams mentioned were Ohio State, Michigan and Michigan State. “We have guys who think we can beat those teams, not just hang with them,’’ Latham said. Latham said that feeling has developed over the years. “I think it used to be, and I don’t know why, but the older guys thought when we played those teams that it was just going to be an ‘L’. You could mark it up,’’ Latham said. “That isn’t the feeling any more.’’ Latham was asked about IU’s dismal bowl history in the last 20 years, too. “We’re looking to get way past just a bowl,’’ Latham said. “We’re thinking whatever comes with it. Big Ten championship and even farther than that.’’ WILSON SAID TO EXPECT FRESHMAN CONTRIBUTIONS In his remarks at Media Day, Wilson was hesitant to say too much about the incoming freshmen because after two practices and no contact, he wanted to make sure he had the right information before making a prediction. What he did say is that all of IU’s freshmen at both wide receiver and cornerback should be in the mix and several could end up playing right away. On the offensive line he said that both Brandon Knight and Simon Stepaniak could be in the two-deep as true freshmen. That doesn’t mean that won’t be redshirt but it means they could be counted on to play if needed. Beyond the freshmen DB’s, who Wilson said could all potentially play, he said Jacob Robinson has stood out the most on the defensive line. But he’s not certain he won’t redshirt either. The reality is that IU’s depth is better across the board which may not necessitate the number of freshmen that have played in Wilson’s system in the past. COMING UP THIS WEEK Wilson said after two days of helmets only, IU would have upper pads on today and Sunday and full pads on Monday. He said two-a-days would begin Tuesday and the first scrimmage would be Saturday, Aug. 15. Generally all scrimmages are closed to the public. Wilson said there would be mid-week scrimmage next week and another scrimmage on Aug. 22 the weekend before school begins. @IndySportsHutch [url=https://btownbanners.com/page/index.html/_/football/news-notes/iu-football-media-day-news-and-notes-r164]Click here to view the article[/url]

No doubt that optimism is high in Bloomington. And this team does pass the look test. But at some point none of it matters. It comes down to "Just Win Baby".

I'm still awaiting an invite, too.   Until I get one, I won't start trash talking Dalton26 about his ludicrous predictions.Without knowing anything about him, I figure he'll finish ninth which means he can't beat both of us.   When's the draft?

    Did you mean 5-7 to 7-5? or did you mean 9-3? Obviously the 9-5 doesn't work.   If it's the former, that's a huge window in terms of importance for the program. Even the difference between 6-6 and 5-7 would be monumental.

  I thought he meant Mallory. LOL.

  Just once in my lifetime it would be fun to see someone make a prediction like this one (because someone always does) and have it come true.   But I think most IU fans would do a dance if the Hoosiers could finish say 8-4.

  That's plenty wild. So I'm guessing you're saying IU wins the first four, loses six of the next seven and then beats Purdue to get bowl eligible. There are IU fans who might be hospitalized heading into the Bucket game if that were the scenario.

I keep hearing the sentiment that the 2015 season is a big year for Kevin Wilson. IU football needs to win and it needs to win now. More to the point, Indiana needs to go to a bowl game or Wilson may not be leading the Hoosiers in 2016. While I understand the frustrations of Indiana football fans and the bowl-game-or-bust mentality, I’m just not in that do-or-die camp just yet when it comes to IU’s fifth-year coach. Yes, Wilson’s 14-34 overall record in four seasons at IU is certainly not something to get excited about. Even worse is the Big Ten record in that span of 6-26. Should the IU alumni and its fans expect more? Absolutely. But having expectations and seeing immediate results are often two different things. I also think that IU athletic director Fred Glass is a strong believer that Wilson is the right guy for the job. He thinks Wilson can get the Hoosiers over the top. All of that aside, I also get how Indiana fans are so tired of being told, ‘Be patient, be patient.’ Patience only goes so far. I remember a poster that was sold at a local convenience store when I was growing up that showed two vultures sitting in a tree looking down on a herd of animals below. One vulture is saying to the other, “Patience my ass, I want to kill something.’’ And yes, Indiana fans are tired of being patient when it comes to football. The unfortunate reality is that it’s not going to be easy. Sure, IU’s recruiting classes of late have been some of the school’s best in many years. But that’s almost not a fair comparison. The reality there is that some of those old classes were so bad that it’s almost surprising that Indiana was able to win any games at all. Recent classes have been better but it’s not like Indiana is pulling in a large number of four and five star recruits. The norm is a bunch of three’s and an occasional four-star sprinkled in. IU also has an incredibly small margin of error. As we talked about with the J-Shun Harris situation, IU can survive a couple of player losses like that but it can’t lose its top skill players and have a chance to compete in the Eastern Division of the Big Ten. One big loss like Nate Sudfeld a year ago was simply too much for the Hoosiers to overcome. The other problem for Indiana is the fact that it plays in a division that also includes Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and Penn State. In order for Indiana to get to a bowl other than something like the Polian Weedeater Bowl (although that is still better than no bowl), IU will have to get to the point where it can beat one or two of those four teams on a somewhat consistent basis. If not, that margin for error shrinks. Now you go back to that formula where you must win all of your non-conference games and then find a way to win a couple of Big Ten games. And that will soon get more difficult when the Big Ten goes to a schedule where teams will play nine conference and three non-conference games. So I guess my take on Wilson is pretty simple. As long as Indiana doesn’t do a complete belly flop this year (something that could always force an athletic director’s hand), I think Wilson will likely be back beyond the 2015 season. That may not be the news that some Indiana fans want to hear but I think it’s the truth. The problem with making a change is that when you do so you often have to wait another three or four years before the new coach gets his own players and has a chance to be successful. Wilson, in his fifth year, now has his own players and Indiana fans simply have to hope that those players are good enough to get Indiana to just its second bowl game in more than 20 years. @IndySportsHutch Sign up for BtownBanners.com for FREE to join in the discussion!

I keep reading comments that people believe that Indiana football coach Kevin Wilson is on the hot seat in his fifth year with the Hoosiers. No winning seasons in the first four and a dismal Big Ten record have IU fans a little bit restless. Here's my take on the topic.I keep hearing the sentiment that the 2015 season is a big year for Kevin Wilson. IU football needs to win and it needs to win now. More to the point, Indiana needs to go to a bowl game or Wilson may not be leading the Hoosiers in 2016. While I understand the frustrations of Indiana football fans and the bowl-game-or-bust mentality, I’m just not in that do-or-die camp just yet when it comes to IU’s fifth-year coach. Yes, Wilson’s 14-34 overall record in four seasons at IU is certainly not something to get excited about. Even worse is the Big Ten record in that span of 6-26. Should the IU alumni and its fans expect more? Absolutely. But having expectations and seeing immediate results are often two different things. I also think that IU athletic director Fred Glass is a strong believer that Wilson is the right guy for the job. He thinks Wilson can get the Hoosiers over the top. All of that aside, I also get how Indiana fans are so tired of being told, ‘Be patient, be patient.’ Patience only goes so far. I remember a poster that was sold at a local convenience store when I was growing up that showed two vultures sitting in a tree looking down on a herd of animals below. One vulture is saying to the other, “Patience my ass, I want to kill something.’’ And yes, Indiana fans are tired of being patient when it comes to football. The unfortunate reality is that it’s not going to be easy. Sure, IU’s recruiting classes of late have been some of the school’s best in many years. But that’s almost not a fair comparison. The reality there is that some of those old classes were so bad that it’s almost surprising that Indiana was able to win any games at all. Recent classes have been better but it’s not like Indiana is pulling in a large number of four and five star recruits. The norm is a bunch of three’s and an occasional four-star sprinkled in. IU also has an incredibly small margin of error. As we talked about with the J-Shun Harris situation, IU can survive a couple of player losses like that but it can’t lose its top skill players and have a chance to compete in the Eastern Division of the Big Ten. One big loss like Nate Sudfeld a year ago was simply too much for the Hoosiers to overcome. The other problem for Indiana is the fact that it plays in a division that also includes Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and Penn State. In order for Indiana to get to a bowl other than something like the Polian Weedeater Bowl (although that is still better than no bowl), IU will have to get to the point where it can beat one or two of those four teams on a somewhat consistent basis. If not, that margin for error shrinks. Now you go back to that formula where you must win all of your non-conference games and then find a way to win a couple of Big Ten games. And that will soon get more difficult when the Big Ten goes to a schedule where teams will play nine conference and three non-conference games. So I guess my take on Wilson is pretty simple. As long as Indiana doesn’t do a complete belly flop this year (something that could always force an athletic director’s hand), I think Wilson will likely be back beyond the 2015 season. That may not be the news that some Indiana fans want to hear but I think it’s the truth. The problem with making a change is that when you do so you often have to wait another three or four years before the new coach gets his own players and has a chance to be successful. Wilson, in his fifth year, now has his own players and Indiana fans simply have to hope that those players are good enough to get Indiana to just its second bowl game in more than 20 years. @IndySportsHutch Sign up for BtownBanners.com for FREE to join in the discussion! [url=https://btownbanners.com/page/index.html/_/football/analysi/analysis-is-kevin-wilson-on-the-hot-seat-r158]Click here to view the article[/url]

  That 70-0 score reminded me of playing Minnesota in Hep's second year up there. IU was 5-4 with three games to play against Minnesota, Michigan and Purdue. Minnesota was struggling and had won just one Big Ten game I think. And the Gophers just pounded the Hoosiers that day from start to finish. Ended up scoring over 60 points and winning easily. Of course, IU ended up getting crushed the next two weeks and not getting bowl eligible. So it wasn't a 70-0 loss in a game they should have won but close.

Did I make the cut?   My email address is Terry_Hutchens@yahoo.com.   I'd play either one but I would like the opportunity to spank some of the hardcore guys here.   That didn't sound right by the way.

  I could possibly type what you just said but then if I repeated it out loud I would erase it because I can't imagine saying that out loud.   The "no issue" thing mentioned in the same sentence with IU football scares me a little bit.

That's what cost DiNardo his job in 2004. Rick Greenspan went to West Lafayette not really expecting that he would end up firing DiNardo but when they got beat that day 63-24, that was all it took. Greenspan felt they were embarrassed and a few months later he hired Terry Hoeppner.

Now that scenario and losing in the Bucket with bowl eligibility on the line could get Wilson fired.

Or we can just post the video like we did above and you can listen for yourself exactly what Kevin Wilson had to say. That saves me a lot of transcribing actually.

I was on the Query & Schultz Show on 1260 WNDE AM Friday afternoon talking IU football and Btownbanners (He let me do a shout out a couple of times telling people to sign up by the way) but to your point, he had three basic questions and of course one had to do with Kevin Wilson's future. He asked me on a scale of 1 to 10 just how important was the season to Kevin Wilson's future. And so I basically was able to regurgitate this thread to an extent. But it's true. When it comes to IU football (and even basketball) that's always one of the first questions people will ask. With IU, it's Sudfeld, Kevin Wilson and in today's case Antonio Allen. Oh well. it is what it is.

  The team captain there "allegedly' huffed glue once. And that was their junior year. They returned to lead them to the world championship as seniors. 

  I'll go back and listen to the tape and make a little notebook out of it. Mike heard the same thing i did as we were at the same media availability session. I would think Green's chances are good especially at that position and given the news on Donovan Clark. I'll put something together, though, and post it by 6. I was meaning to do that any way today to have some kind of football presence on the site.

But we're back to another discussion then. If Wilson and IU have a good season this year, then what do you do? I just don't think you can sit back and not do anything which is what I believe you're suggesting. I just don't think you can recruit with that perceived lack of support from the administration. If this is, as you said, Wilson's year to prove himself, then if he is successful in that you have to acknowledge it in a tangible way.